100% completion, 149 bookmarks
-Movies & tv series mentioned: TERMINATOR 2, GREYSTOKE, NAKED GUN 2.5, HOOK, STAR TREK 6, ALIEN 3, ADDAMS FAMILY, HIGHLANDER 2, DISNEY BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, THE FINAL COUNTDOWN, MEMOIRS OF AN INVISIBLE MAN, THE ROCKETEER, CIRCUITRY MAN, SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN, THE REAL GHOSTBUSTERS, THE FISHER KING, EVIL DEAD 2, C.H.U.D., HARDWARE, HELLRAISER 3, CAST A DEADLY SPELL, BATMAN 2, SUPERMAN 4, SAPPHIRE AND STEEL, BLADERUNNER DIRECTORS CUT, THE BLUE LAGOON.
-Stories and books mentioned: HALO, TEKLORDS, HERALDS OF VALDEMAR, BARDIC VOICES, MARTIAN RAINBOW, TEKLAB, LIFE DURING WARTIME, LOST ART, FOUCAULTS PENDELUM, THE TIME BENDER, THE WORLD SHUFFLER, MEMOIRS OF AN INVISIBLE MAN, KILLDOZER, PIGS IS PIGS, EYE OF ARGON, THE ROCKETEER, LOST CITY OF ZORK, THE GENERAL, BOOK OF EBON BINDINGS, SKYFALL, OUT ON BLUE SIX, DAMAINO, EARTH ABIDES, STAR ROVER, RAISING THE STONES, TRAVELS IN HYPERREALITY, A HISTORY OF SECRET SOCIETIES, THE NEGOTIATOR, GORD THE ROGUE, LUNAR DESCENT, GODEL ESCHER BACH: AN ETERNAL GOLDEN BOND, NEEDFUL THINGS, THE TROUBLE WITH LICHEN, MAN WHO AWOKE, THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE, IN PURSUIT OF VALIS, HARPY HIGH, CASTLE PERILOUS, RATS AND GARGOYLES.
-Pop culture references: Lily Marlene, Punxsutawny Phil, PostScript, Nanptechnology, Eye of Argon, Hayes 1200 smart-modems, Whole Earth Catalog, the BBC tape library archives purge, C.H.U.D., SKYNET, whoever the "Cabana Boys" are, ROM, SpaceKnight, Captain Jacks Rum, the SciFi Channels initial slate of scheduled programming, Paul Reubens masturbating in that movie theater, Madonna, the American tv series pilot of RED DWARF, the movie book option to 'THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE"
-Death notices: Gene Roddenberry.
-SFLer's from almost everywhere in the world are popping up. Japan, Australia, Africa, Europe, India, Turkey, Scotland, Germany, Mexico, Canada, Indonesia, navy.milnet, etc.
-Repeated instances of public sex happening at TimeCon 1991, along with another extreme SF&F convention called EROTICON SIX, tailored to the BDSM enthusiast crowd. Keeping with this trend, discussion of SF Porn, and there is many examples I'm not going to re-transcribe here.
(2020 note: If you are curious to see what was mentioned, word search SFL Archives Volume 16B for "SFPorn".)
-Commentary on George O Smith's THE EARTH ABIDES features the very first time an author is called a Nazi, or an authors work is declared Aryan propaganda in SFL Archives history.
-The forgotten SF works of Jack London.
-The details finally leak about how Jerry Pournelle lost his ARPANET access forever.
(2020 note: Pournelle lost his ARPANET access back in 1982 or 1983, and I wondered exactly how Pournelle lost his ARPANET access a few times earlier in my SFL Archives readthrough summaries.)
-Discussion of Umberto Eco's published stories, more specifically how to catch all the layered secret society references in Eco's FOUCAULTS PENDELUM.
-Michael Straczynski is noted as having been hired to write the pilot episode for a reboot of the 1980's "V" series.
(2020 note: The description of what happens in the JMS written pilot sounds a lot like what happened in seasons 2 & 3 of BABYLON 5.)
-How various SLFer's would go about designing SKYNET to make it work better and remove any possible pesky time-traveller hijinks.
-The beginning of TERMINATOR movie franchise dueling timelines discussion: Does Terminator 2 invalidate Terminator 1? How did the T-1000 travel back in time? Are the dates off? Does John Connor seem to old/too young for the dates GoodArnie recites to Dyson & Sarah Connor?
(2020 note: Thanks to the SFLers repeatedly mentioning organic sacks, sort of want to see a scene where the T-1000 travelled back in time inside a giant pumpkin. Which if you stretch things might result in a PEANUTS The Great Pumpkin/TERMINATOR franchise mashup that I would pay to see.)
-BLADERUNNER: DIRECTORS CUT discussion vs the original 1982 theatrical release. Various scenes been cut and added. SFLer's claiming it is Ridley Scotts final vision for the film. Mention is made of Mary, the All-American Mother Replicant.
-Everything terrible inside the Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle & Michael Flynn novel FALLEN ANGELS. Cannibal black people, slavery, global warming is fake, hero SF&F fandom saving everyone, evil treehuggers, hard men making hard calls, different versions of slavery, other libertarian things, etc.
-SFLer's note that H Beam Piper's theft of Robert Heinlein's flat-cats in the H Beam Piper LITTLE FUZZY stories are not theft because according to Heinlein his "flat cats" are just Ellis Parker Butler's "dago pigs" with the serial numbers filed off.
-The before-before times for 1991 SFLers, when Isaac Asimov wasn't so openly pompous about himself in AISFM editorials and hadn't totally iced John W Campbell out on co-creation rights for the THREE LAWS OF ROBOTICS.
-Science Fiction stories of the 1920's, '30s, '40s, '50s being incomprehensible to modern 1990's readers due to dated references to vacuum tubes, physically cutting antennas, toggles, etc. On the same note, SFLer's start debating the merits of 1991 SF&F magazines, and none of the commentary makes sense to a 2020 reader.
(2020 note: Funnily, steampunk & maker communities mean that some of those long-dead technologies mentioned aren't so dead anymore. On the other hand, Analog magazine is dead? Asimov Magazine is dead, Amazing Stories is super-dead, Pulphouse is probably dead, etc.)
-The people of usenet group rec.arts.sf-lovers get tired of seeing messages posted from non-usenet users/the SF-LOVERS mailing list gateway onto rec.arts.sf-lovers, and vote to sever the two-way mirroring. The SFL Archives mailing list-moderator grudgingly disconnects the two-way link after months of delays, then re-enables a one-way gateway link on the down-low for "content/This mailing list moderator position gives me internet power" reasons
-The former co-heads of BOSKONE 25 Jim Mann & Laurie Mann become super-toxic about conventions when discussion about the voting for WorldCon 1994 comes up. Sadly conventions is all that Jim & Laurie Mann ever post about in the SFL Archives. Their toxicity comes from the Mann husband-wife adopting a "I see nothing negative. I hear nothing negative. I know nothing negative." towards their own preferred conventions/friends conventions, but then proceed to drag up dirt regarding competitors conventions.
-A resurgence of Marion Zimmer Bradley discussion.
-STAR TREK 6 went over well with most of the SFL. The main cast of TOS seeming to act out of character, wonky special effects, design spec changes of the Enterprise, those damn gravity boots from ST5 appearing, Kim Cattrall's character not having a standardized Vulcan name, Michael Dorf & Christian Slater cameo appearances, how TNG series canon effects ST6/how ST6 effects TNG series canon, etc.
George Takei's 15 minutes of screen-time as Captain of a non-Enterprise spaceship had many vocal SFLer's hoping for the adventures of Captain Sulu (while sidelining or preferably killing Kirk) in a possible Captain Sulu spinoff tv-series.
-Raymond Feist ripping off the TEKUMEL setting comes up again repeatedly. The same person from SFL Archives 1987 & 1990? is back making the same "I have a document with 300 points of similarity between Tekumel & Feist's Riftwar books". Stuff like metal poorness, laquered armors, identically described lizardous subraces, city names, geography, etc. A few SFLer's make the claim that Feist wasn't ripping off Tekumel directly, Feist was merely stealing the setting/characters/plotlines of the homebrew RPG campaign of a un-named GameMaster that Feist had a character in...and that the un-named GameMaster running the homebrew RPG campaign was the person with the all Tekumel/D&D/Tunnels & Trolls sourcebooks, not Raymond Feist.
(2020 note: I really don't care what the true background behind Riftwar is. Many SF&F authors have based some of their works off of other authors or sometimes incorporate one or two interesting tidbits from RPG sourcebooks. It's the wholesale copying without acknowledgement that bothers me, especially if Feist ripped off the work of a un-named GM for 10+ books)
-First mention of R.A. Salvatore in the SFL Archives, along with the rumor that Salvatore also writes under a pen-name.
(2020 note: I have no idea, and refuse to look this up. Want to say that R.A. Salvatore has released roughly 40 books since the 1990's, so if he was also writing under a pen-name too, that is impressive output.)
-PRESERVE YOUR SOFTWARE AT ALL COSTS. THE REST IS MEAT. vs PRESERVE YOUR HARDWARE AT ALL COSTS. THE REST IS NOISE.
-A advertisement for CONFLAGRATION 1992, a convention catered towards SF pornography and so much more.
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Date: 10 Aug 91 18:24:32 GMT
From: davep@milton.u.washington.edu (David Ptasnik)
Subject: CONFLAGRATION ChiCon Room Party
Everyone is invited to the CONFLAGRATION room party at ChiCon. Look for
our signs for the day, time, and room number at the Hyatt!
CONFLAGRATION
The Convention Your MAMA Warned You About
UNDER 21 NOT ADMITTED!
June 19, 20, 21
1992
Alderbrook Resort
Union, Washington
Guest of Honor
ANDREW J. OFFUTT
Creator of "Shadowspawn"
Author of "Conan" Novels
Author Guest
VICKI MITCHELL
Star Trek Novel "Enemy Unseen"
Artist Guest
PHIL FOGLIO
Hugo Award Winner
Fan Guest
JOY DAY
Costumer Extraordinaire
Master of Ceremonies
JON GUSTAFSON
Professional SF Art Appraiser & Expert
Special Appearance By
JOHN CLEVE
"Spaceways"and "The Crusader" sagas
JUICY PANELS
JUICIER FILMS
FILTHY FILKING
WEENIE ROAST
MASQUERADE
BONFIRES
DEALERS
GAMING
ARCADE
BhEER
WhINE
ORGAzMS
HOSPITALITY
PARTY COTTAGES
UNCENSORED ART SHOW
SATURDAY NITE ART AUCTION
BEACH SIDE RESORT
OUTDOOR FUN
INDOOR POOL
JACUZZI
TENNIS
FISHING
SAILING
GOLF
No one under 21 will be admitted to the Northwest's ONLY
Adult Science Fiction Convention.
IS THAT A SPACESHIP IN YOUR POCKET,
OR ARE YOU JUST THINKING ABOUT CONFLAGRATION?
For something new and fresh in a Fantasy and Science Fiction Convention, we
cordially invite you to attend CONFLAGRATION in June of '92. Our
convention will be an SF and Fantasy convention with traditional panel
discussions and activities, famous people to talk to and learn from, and a
whole bunch of outdoor fun at a gorgeous waterfront resort. CONFLAGRATION
will include adult themes, and will be restricted to adults over 21 (photo
ID at the door, please). We think you will really enjoy the opportunity of
taking a weekend off at one of the nicest getaway spots in the Northwest.
Plus you will be able to do it in the company of people who understand and
share an important aspect of all of our lives: fandom. Enjoy every aspect
of SF and Fantasy without having to look over your shoulder for fear of
offending a mundane, or setting off a riot among the kids. Register early,
we could be sold out before the convention.
Dave and Cindy Ptasnik, co-chairs
HERE ARE THE SORDID DETAILS -
FEEL THE HEAT:
At the Alderbrook Resort on the breathtakingly beautiful Hood Canal. The
entire resort will be ours! No kids, no mundanes, no inhibitions.
Sleeping bags and extra towels OK'd by the resort. For reservations call
1-800-622-9370.
A credit card or personal check will guarantee reservations.
About 1 1/2 hours from Seattle in Union, WA.
About 2 1/2 hours from Portland.
Canadians use those kilometer thingies, and nobody knows how far anything
is from there. This is a very nice (AAA recommended) facility. Virtually
every room and cottage has an amazing territorial view of mountains, water,
and forest. 2nd and 3rd floor rooms all have balconies. Ground floor
rooms are wheelchair accessible. Some rooms are designed for use by the
differently abled.
SUBMISSIVE BEHAVIOR:
The staff at the Alderbrook Resort has had it's collective passion enflamed
by our coming. They haven't had this much fun since the transvestite
convention. Costumes are encouraged in all resort areas, including the
restaurant and lounge. They even seemed to pant a little at the thought of
well armed virtually naked barbarians. Small pets (no, a sheep is not a
small pet) are welcome with some conditions (ask the resort).
FOREPLAY:
Registration will be strictly limited to 350 (um) members. Please register
under your legal name, you may also provide a badge name. Info:
CONFLAGRATION
12345 Lake City Way
Suite 2001
Seattle, WA 98125
1-800-989-2001
206-527-2001 (Canada and Seattle area)
Please send SASE for return correspondence, there will be progress reports.
PROS:
They do it for money AND satisfaction!
Andrew J. Offutt is the finest, funniest, and downright steamiest author we
have ever encountered at a con. From his Conan novels to Shadowspawn of
Thieves' World, Uncle Andy is the master of lurid Heroic Fantasy. His
readings are an absolute must-hear. The ladies will swoon over his sexy
soft drawl.
Vicki Mitchell is the hottest new best-selling author in the region, and a
true veteran of Star Trek warfare. Meet this rising star, and learn how to
work with publishers and studios.
Phil Foglio, a recent transplant from the Midwest, is the illustrator of
the M.Y.T.H. Adventure series, and creator of Xenophile (the only explicit
American comic published in Sweden). Let's give the author of Buck Godot a
warm (maybe even cozy) Northwest welcome.
Joy Day is one of the best costumers and most dedicated fans around. She
has won countless masquerades nationwide, as well as a major award at a
WorldCon.
Jon Gustafson is the only professional appraiser of SF and Fantasy Art.
His knowledge is encyclopedic, which explains why he wrote the artist
biographies for The Doubleday Encyclopedia of Science Fiction.
John Cleve will make a special appearance to discuss sex and science
fiction. The author of Spaceways (the red hot 19 volume series of Playboy
books) and the positively lustful five volume Crusader epic will light your
fire.
Are you a Pro?
Drop us a line, we would love to have you participate in CONFLAGRATION.
VENUS BUTTERFLY:
Not even the National Endowment for the Arts would fund this Art Show and
Auction. Libidinous contributions will be solicited from the finest
artists in the nation. (The sculptures ought to be particularly
interesting.) Bring your wallets for this one, we are encouraging artists
to send originals. Even better, we will be holding the Art Auction on
Saturday Night. If you don't get your first choice at auction, we will
have special Sunday Sale prices to let you fulfill your flaming desire for
the real thing, original art.
Artists: Give it to us straight, we can take it. Unchain your wildest
fantasies for this uncensored presentation. Show us how well you are hung.
Call or write for a copy of our art show guidelines.
BAZAAR OF ALL EARTHLY DELIGHTS:
Where Anything may be for sale. Our dealer room will have a limited
number of tables specially selected for your Every Need or Desire
(Batteries not included).
Dealers: send a description (or better yet a dirty picture) of your
goodies. 6' x 2.5' tables will be $10 each, membership(s) purchased
separately. We will give a preference to theme appropriate wares, and
will try to balance our selection of merchants. If you are not
selected, your money will be promptly refunded.
WATER SPORTS:
Wet and wild. Sailboats, paddle boats, inner tubes, water ski tows, crab
pots, fishing gear and more will be available on the Resort's 80 foot
(that's a big one) dock. Salt water swimming in a large roped off area
and beachcombing are free.
TALK DIRTY TO ME:
. . . in the panel rooms. Try the panel on kissing techniques, or how to
get a bust in the mouth. After all, that's what you're really after at
these things, right? (Hey you, with the pocket protector, stop that!).
It's guaranteed to get pretty steamy.
THERE'S A VOYEUR IN THE FOYEUR:
If you like to watch, come to the video room. Flesh Gordon is just the
beginning. You won't see this stuff on the Disney Channel.
THE WET SPOT:
Don't avoid this one - a HUGE indoor pool in its own building. There is
even a jacuzzi that sits 22 (or more) friendly people. The management
requires that something be worn at all times in the pool, like, say, a
wristwatch or earrings. There will be a special swim for overweight
people, we can be rather shy around you skinny types. Bring your best for
the Outrageous Inflatable Pool Toy Competition (Now where did we put those
Love Ewes?).
SHOW AND TELL:
Create your wildest costume ever for our red hot Masquerade! No lip
synching. No pre-judging. No censorship. Let your conscience be your
guide (do whatever it says you shouldn't). Bribing the judges is
encouraged. Awards will be given for Hottest of Show, Hottest SF, Hottest
Fantasy, Most Provocative, Most Humorous, and Least (that's right, just
Least).
ORGY CENTRAL:
Gamers do it in groups. The festivities will be indoors and outdoors (at
last gaming comes out of the closet). Scandalous Scavenger Hunt (it's not
OK for the ribbed condom to have been used); Clothing Optional Volleyball
(just kidding); Explicit Role-Playing tournament; Jello Snarffuling (it
sounds just as disgusting as it sounds).
GROUP GROPE:
Sex, er, uh, six cottages have been specially set aside for room parties.
If you plan to have such a party, please request one of these cottages when
making your reservation.
CLIMAX ROOM:
Our hospitality cottage will be an ultimate delight of sinful pleasure.
Chips, dips, BhEER, WhINE, PB & J (not on the sheets, please), coffee,
popcorn, candy, cake, soda pop, and munch, munch more. We'll even have
REAL food. Join us at our complimentary BONFIRE AND WEENIE ROAST on Friday
Night! (Talk about oral gratification.) Oh yeah, and our own signature
drink, The Orgazm. We hope you will find this the most hospitable offering
on the convention circuit, with longer hours, and more good stuff all the
time. There will be no "kitty" begging for Hospitality Suite donations.
You've already paid for the food and drink by registering. Take your
smoking outside, that's for after the climax.
SEE YOU THERE!!!!!!!!!
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