SFL Archives Vol 18b is a 7.3mb raw text file
100% completion, 189 bookmarks
Did not expect to hate almost everything that came up in SFL Archives Vol 18b.
SF&F movie & tv-series mentioned: SEAQUEST DSV, LOIS & CLARK, ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE DARK, POPE OF UTAH, TIME RUNNER, ROBINSON CRUSOE ON MARS, THEM, 12:01, FORBIDDEN PLANET 1956, THE OSCAR, CONEHEADS, PRISONERS OF GRAVITY, BLACK RAIN, FORTRESS, MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS, HIGHLANDER (tv-series), BRISCO COUNTY JR, CARNOSAUR, DEMOLITION MAN, MISFITS OF SCIENCE, TRANCERS 4, FIREBALL XL5, STAR TREK VOYAGER, SPACE GIANTS (anime), JOHNNY NEMONIC, ROBOCOP 3, JOSH AND S.A.M., MAN'S BEST FRIEND, MOTORAMA, STARGATE, EARTH TWO (tv-series), VIPER (tv-series),
SF&F story mentions: THE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY, A FIRE UPON THE DEEP, FORBIDDEN PLANET 1956, RAFT, THE FOREVER WAR, HARVEST, SYSTEMIC SHOCK, ELEMENT OF FIRE, DUNN'SCONUNDRUM, THE GOD PROJECT, ARCHITECT OF SLEEP, WHITE QUEEN, THE VISUAL GUIDE TO AMBER, COLD ALLIES, WHEN TRUE NIGHT FALLS, VIRTUAL GIRL, THE CYGNET AND THE FIREBIRD, GROUNDTIES, BLACK SKY, LIEGE-KILLER, ARISTOI, THE FLYING SORCEROR, SONGS OF CHAOS, EVENT HORIZON, ARTIFACT OF THE SYSTEM, THE STARS SHALL ABIDE, FOLK OF THE AIR, T.H.E.M., ALIEN ISLAND, THE WORLD ASSUNDER, THE JADE ENCHANTRESS, WORLDWAR: IN THE BALANCE, EVERVILLE, SEEKERS MASK, THE COLD EQUATIONS, PALIMPSETS, PASSION PLAY, A NIGHT IN LONESOME OCTOBER, BEST OF HENRY KUTTNER, THE CASE OF THE TOXIC SPELL DUMP, DOOMSDAY BOOK, ONLY YOU CAN SAVE MANKIND, SECOND CONTACT,
Pop Culture: xrefs in texts, Lord Haw-Haw the war criminal, "power gamers", Titanaide cosplay at Conadian, reverse Kafka stories, Toaster video animation/CGI, Filksongs getting mentioned in the Wall Street Journal, EPI-LOG Winter Special #1, the "rn" Unix newsreader, the early Bladerunner 1982 script that was a comedy before Ridley Scott got involved, the various computer technology items featured in a 1993 Aerosmith music video,
SFL requests/discussion topics
>nuclear war movies
>Libertianism in SF
>where's the technology (in SF stories)
>Is the New Wave dead
>sexy movies
>dystopian future movies
>author pseudonyms
>galactic societies in conflict
>best deacidification methods for books/newspapers/comics
>Science Fiction --?-->Science Fact
>is thiotimoline real?
>SF cultural literacy
>Niven (Larry) Universes
>Vampires and/or Lycanthropy
>Heinlein/Race
>first mention of cybernetics
>Shakespeare in SF
>favorite obscure author
>books on tape (for the visually impaired)
>obscure books
-An interview with the SFL Archives mailing list moderator Saul Jaffe gets posted to the SFL Archives.
-The mechanics behind organizing a convention: Advice & examples on how make years-future facilities reservations using no-cash bids/actual cash bids. Food & Drinks budget planning.
-The TOR Books editors that started posting in the SFL Archives in 1993 remain total assholes when responding to people throughout 1993, while the Del Rey Books editor posted extremely informative behind the scenes newsletters and remained extremely chill when questioned about Del Rey Books publishing choices.
(2021 note: Totally did not expect to have opinions on Book Publishing houses going into SFL Archives 1993, however now I do. <shrugs>.)
-One SFLer notes the similarities between the 1954 SciFi movie THEM and James Cameron's ALIENS.
-YNGVI IS A LOUSE! discusion crops up again.
(2021 note:Sadly 1993 SFLers are just as clueless about origins of YNGVI as the first time YNGVI IS A LOUSE! came up in the SFL Archives.)
-Annotated version of Vernor Vinge's A FIRE UPON THE DEEP complete with author notes which can be found on the Hugo & Nebula Anthology 1993 CDROM.
(2021 note: Someone uploaded a copy of that CDROM to the The internet archive project (archive dot org) a few years ago.)
-Thiotimoline, Isaac Asimov's fake chemical compound gets discussed again, complete with the anecodote of thiotimoline coming up during Asimov's final PHD defense review.
-A unique interview with William Gibson about VIRTUAL LIGHT during a VIRTUAL LIGHT book press tour in Dublin Ireland is re-posted to the SFL Archives.
(2021 note: The full interview can be found here: https://nothing2seeherepleasedisperse.blogspot.com/2021/02/sfl-archives-1993-virtual-light-press.html )
-Another periodic mention of John Norman & the GOR book series. This time someone brings up a Seattle WA bookstore with "No GOR" signs everywhere similar to the Slimer/Ghostbusters movie signs.
-Yet another attempt by SFLer Jeremy York to drum up interest in a comic book series called BEANWORLD.
-First mention of SF&F actor Jeffrey Combs in the SFL Archives, along with why Combs's presence can be worth watching utterly terrible tv-shows or movies.
-The reason why no sequels or followups to Steven Boyett's ARCHITECT OF SLEEP have come out so far in 1993.
(2021 note: The tldr summary is poor publisher marketing, poor editing/editor turnover, poor sales, trapped in limbo while Boyett tries to buy back rights to it).
-George Adamski & Richard Shaver being the driving force behind many early UFO conspiracy theory stories.
-The running theme of WorldCon 1993 aka ConFrancisco 1993 was 120% failure dealing with mailing lists or sending out mail/email/convention paperwork.
-Steven Spielberg giving up on SEAQUEST DSV to focus on a new tv-series called EARTH TWO.
-WORLDCON COMMITTE DECLARES BATMAN NOT FICTIONAL.
-Martha Wells gets mentioned for the first in the SFL Archives when someone asks for feedback reviews on her debut novel ELEMENT OF FIRE.
-Project Gutenberg sends out a press release regarding digitizing the first 4 Edgar Rice Burroughs Mars books, marking one of the earliest mentions of Project Gutenberg in the SFL Archives.
-Much discussion of LeGuin's Tehanu setting, much discussion of Tim Powers, much discussion of Mercedes Lackey, much discussion of Iain Banks, and other authors I refuse to mention.
-The May 1989 Iain Banks interview with JOURNAL WIRED comes up again, complete with the list of all stories Iain Banks had written/worked on up to the point of that 1989 interview.
(2021 note: Bank's Culture books being published in reversed written order is always vastly amusing to me, given how divise CONSIDER PHELBAS is amongst Iain Banks fans.)
-More HIGHLANDER tv-series discussion. Killing off of the female love interest, introduction of the Watchers/Hunters, Richie becoming immortal for real. The overload of immortal femme fatales especially Elizabeth Gracen
-SFLers note how Elizabeth Moon's fiction tends to be unattributed Dungeons & Dragons adventure modules, complete with notRangers, notPaladins, notThiefs, notWizards, notClerics, etc.
-Charles Stross starts re-posting the latest issues of the UK SF&F newsletter ANSIBLE to the SFL Archives.
(2021 note: The Ansible newsletters are always pretty interesting. Seriously considering dumping the detailed SFL Archives readthrough to just check the future SFL Volumes for Del Rey newsletters, and start reading the back-catalogue of Ansible newsletters directly from the source.)
-Dave Langford, the SF author Charles Stross recommended the rest of the SFL Archives check out, starts posting to the SFL Archives.
(2021 note: Noticed this when Langford posted ANSIBLE 77 to the SFL Archives instead of Charles Stross. Langford maintained/ran the Ansible newsletter as of 1993, unsure who currently manages ANSIBLE).
-First mention & review of the childrens tv-series MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS in SFL Archives. Funnily the first person to mention it predicts a swift cancellation before the 1st season of the show airs.
-BRISCO COUNTY JR tv-series discussion. SFLer's like the running joke about Socrates and commonplace future technology being unfeasible or insane sounding.
-Locus Magazine finally not winning a Hugo Award is much discussed.
(2021 note: Locus Magazine has won the Hugo Award many many many many times as of 1993)
-THE VISUAL GUIDE TO AMBER having a callback to Monty Pythons Lumberjack song in one of the character portraits.
-X Files tv-series premieres in fall 1993. SFL reaction is positive. Lots and lots of X-Files series discussion & speculation.
(2021 note: Sadly I really don't care about the X-Files tv-series & find X-Files discussion more boring than convention or Hugo/Nebula Award discussion.)
-SEAQUEST DSV premieres and almost everyone hates it. The technology leaps in 30 yrs seems too unreal, the notWesley character annoys people more than Darwin the dolphin, etc. One SFLer is very angry that current to 1993 US Navy regs & submarine specs are not religiously being followed by a SF series set 30+ yrs in the future.
-LOIS & CLARK premieres No lies, L&C got 100% favorable reviews, even the people who tuned in to the show to hate-watch it end up loving the show. Everyone enjoys the eye-candy factor of Dean Cain, Teri Hatcher & Tracey Scoggins. And especially like how Clark is learning how to be Superman publically on the fly & how closely the L&C tv-series matches current-as-of-1993 Superman comics continuity.
-The person with the 30+ modular wizard staff has strong strong strongest opinions on BABYLON 5 & Star Trek.
-EYE OF ARAGON discussion makes a brief comeback along with a 600 page novel submitted to Baen Books called EYE OF HEAVEN that even, allegedly, Baen Books iron-stomached editors couldn't get through.
-Did Heinlein include a Bonsai tree in the CAT WHO WALKS THROUGH WALLS because of Theodore Sturgeon's SLOW SCULPTURE
-"what is Libertarianism in SF" leads to all sorts of classifications and recommended reading lists, with everyone involved in the libertarianism discussion threads becoming deadly serious & jumping to counter-correct other posters. A huge majority of SFL Archives posters self-identify themselves as libertarians.
-First mention of STAR TREK VOYAGER in SFL Archives, with the bonus of Paramount Studios heavily ripping of RED DWARF tv-series for the VOYAGER intial series pitch.
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