Showing posts with label Philip K Dick. Show all posts
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SFL Archives: Real life Encounters with Philip K Dick in the 1970's aka the possible inspirations behind VALIS, FLOW MY TEARS & SCANNER DARKLY

 On occasion the weirdness of Philip K Dick's real life exceeding the weirdness of PKD's writing gets brought up in the SFL Archives. 

Philip K Dick has always been one of the most fascinating authors I have come across. Reality and fiction, unreality into real life events, the distinctions between everything blurred when Philip K Dick got involved. 


SFL ARCHIVES VOLUME 06 : VALIS inspiration?

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Date: 20 Aug 1982 1810-PDT

From: LEWIS at SRI-AI (Bil Lewis)

Subject: VALIS -- a personal review


        What ever else one might wish to say about VALIS, it

is most certainly autobiographical. Philip K Dick plays  the

major role,  and Doris  X, an  old friend  of mine,  is  the

number two figure (Sherri) through out the first half of the

book. I and various other friends appear as minor characters

or just in passing.  Several others I don't know at all. The

only event that I know to be inaccurate is that Doris didn't

die in her second bout with Cancer, which implies that  most

of the other weird things that occur are real.


        When I returned from the Peace Corps in 1974, I  met

"Phil" , a  friend of Doris'  who lived next  door, and  his

cat.  He struck me as  a depressed, moribund character  with

little interest in  people and none  in living, exactly  the

last type  of person  Doris needed  at that  time. I  didn't

realize that this was Dick and that he and Doris were lovers

until last week.


        VALIS is  not  so  much science  fiction  as  it  is

religious/mystic fiction  (however  much  of  it  really  is

fiction!). Dick writes very well. He uses a huge  vocabulary

makes innumerable literary references, and a fair number  of

personal ones too. Having read the  Bible, alot of SF &  all

of Dick's works  would certainly help  in understanding  the

book.  Knowing the people involved would also.


        The  book   is   angry,  confused,   neurotic,   and

brilliant, like Phil was.  He yearns for, and  half-believes

in, a mystic, quasi-religious reality where spiritual elites

exist and discover each other through subtle messages hidden

on TV  and in  movies. Age-old  conspiracies, "Others",  and

God-cum-human are an integral part of the universe. Just  as

we expect these things in SF, Dick proposes them to be real.


        Dick exposes himself as he is, he extols the mystic,

and bemoans  his  personal  loss of  the  two  girls  [sic].

Ironically Doris now bemoans HER  personal loss of two  men,

David (a grand mal  seizure), and now  Phil. Somehow I  find

all of this quite fitting, like closing a circle.


        I cannot recommend VALIS as  a book to read to  very

many people. Only  if you are  particulary intrigued by  the

questions posed above and posses  a fine sense of the  agony

of both  life  and love,  and  can empathize  with  a  man's

struggling would you enjoy reading this. [Robert, YOU  would

understand.]


        If you still  think of  great writers  as being  all

around  fantastic   people,   ones  that   are   conversant,

personable, and in control of their own lives (like I  did),

then avoid VALIS.  He leaves few emotional stones  unturned,

and they are real.


-Bil

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SFL ARCHIVES VOLUME 14 : FLOW MY TEARS & SCANNER DARKLY inspirations?

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Date: 22 Feb 89 23:21:14 GMT

From: jac@paul.rutgers.edu (J. A. Chandross)

Subject: PKD and the events of 1974/1975


In a wonderful piece of prose, maddoxt@novavax.UUCP (Thomas Maddox) writes:

> let me give you the following remarks on the difference between "android"

> and "human," written as the opening of an address Philip Dick intended to

> give at a conference in England in March, 1975.  He was ill and could not

> attend; his text was published in the collection, _Science Fiction at

> Large_, which also includes Thomas Disch's brilliant and infamous "The

> Embarrassments of Science Fiction."  (Edited by Peter Nicholls, the

> collection was published by Harper and Row in the United States in 1976;

> so far as I know, it is out of print.)

>

>As Dick makes clear, the distinction between "human" and "android" is not

>simple and does not simply refer to a being's manner of origin.


This essay was recently re-printed in _The Dark Haired Girl_ by PKD.  This

book is highly recommended for anyone with a weakness for dark haired

women.  Also included are a number of dicks essays and some correspondence.


PKD was not ill in the usual sense; he was very badly frightened.  In 1974

PKD's house was broken into by a para-military group.  During this robbery

his fire-proof safe was blown with mil-grade plastique and the contents,

including several stories, were stolen.  So was his stereo and, oddly

enough, all of his cancelled checks for the past ten years.  The police had

been warned by PKD about a possible break-in several days before the

incident, but PKD's pleas for help were largely ignored.  None of PKD's

belongings were ever recovered, and the police told PKD to back off, or an

accident might happen to him.  Soon after the break-in PKD began receiving

even more death threats than before.  One of them stated that if he went to

a convention in Canada that he would be killed.  PKD backed out at the last

minute, but did send off the Human vs Android address to be published in

the proceedings.  I believe that this is the convention that Maddox is

referring to.


For more information on the harassment of PKD see:

   _Only Apparently Real_       Paul Williams

      This is a set of interviews with PKD only days before he died.

   _The Dark Haired Girl_       PKD

      Collected non-fiction essays and correspondence of PKD.

   _Valis_                      PKD

      Fictionalized account of the events of 1974.  PKD's exegesis.


Jonathan A. Chandross

Internet: jac@paul.rutgers.edu

Uucp: rutgers!jac@paul.rutgers.edu

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Date: 22 Feb 89 20:35:56 GMT

From: llt@peregrine.peregrine.com (Taylor)

Subject: PKDS (Philip K. Dick Society)


In my infrequent excursions through this newsgroup, I invariably run across

several references to Phil Dick in one context or another.


Since there is an interest in Phil and his work, I thought you might like

some information about the Philip K. Dick Society and the newsletter that

it publishes quarterly. (Please forgive me if this information has been

posted before.)


The newsletter has been published for the last six years by the PKDS under

the direction of Paul Williams, author, friend, and literary executor of

Phil's estate. Consequently, the kind of information that appears in the

newsletter is extremely varied, often quirky, and very interesting. You

would think that, in the seven years since Phil's death, interest in him

and his work would have waned. Quite the contrary. It seems that the

interest is growing, the amount of writing about Phil and his work

continues to grow, and the body of his published work also grows under

Paul's direction.


A point in fact is the recent publication of a collection of letters, and

essays called The Dark Haired Girl. It's the first compilation that I am

aware of of Phil's real-life communication (of interest, perhaps in view of

the number of postings that I have run across on the subject of Phil Dick

and reality); in this case, the common theme of the writings is Phil's life

long search for the Dark-Haired Girl.


I was one of the Dark-Haired Girls that Phil encountered in that search;

the experience took place nearly 18 years ago, and was one that very

probably shaped the direction of my life. (But then, I think that anyone

who knew Phil would also say that about their own life.) The newsletter

provides a forum for people with their own experiences to talk about them;

there is also an astonishing amount of news about Phil's work and work that

others are doing that is related.


If you write to Paul Williams, he will send you information about the

newsletter; the address is:

   PKDS

   Box 611

   Glen Ellen, CA   95442.

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Date: 23 Feb 89 14:36:35 GMT

From: ELE@PSUVM.BITNET (Jeremy Crampton)

Subject: Re: PKD and the events of 1974/1975


jac@paul.rutgers.edu (J. A. Chandross) says:


>maddoxt@novavax.UUCP (Thomas Maddox) writes:

>> let me give you the following remarks on the difference between

>> "android" and "human," written as the opening of an address Philip Dick

>> intended to give at a conference in England in March, 1975.  He was ill

>> and could not attend; his text was published in the collection, _Science

>> Fiction at Large_, which also includes Thomas Disch's brilliant and

>> infamous "The Embarrassments of Science Fiction."  (Edited by Peter

>> Nicholls, the collection was published by Harper and Row in the United

>> States in 1976; so far as I know, it is out of print.)

>

>PKD was not ill in the usual sense; he was very badly frightened.  In 1974

>PKD's house was broken into by a para-military group.  During this robbery

>his fire-proof safe was blown with mil-grade plastique and the contents,

>including several stories, were stolen.  So was his stereo and, oddly

>enough, all of his cancelled checks for the past ten years.  The police

>had been warned by PKD

[stuff deleted]

>would be killed.  PKD backed out at the last minute, but did send off the

>Human vs Android address to be published in the proceedings.  I believe

>that this is the convention that Maddox is referring to.


You seem to be confusing two different events and time periods here.  The

"ill- ness" Thomas Maddox refers to occurred in 1975 (if memory serves, it

was something to do with his heart, according to Peter Nicholls' editorial

comments; he later died of a stroke of course) and prevented him from

flying over to England where Nicholls was presenting a series of sf

lectures including the Disch essay (btw, reread that last night- it's as

relevant today as it was then), LeGuin, Garner, Harrison etc at the

Institute for Contemporary Arts in London.  The talks were published as

_Explorations_of_the_Marvellous_ in the UK and _Science_Fiction_at_Large_

in the US.


As for the "para-military" group and the story you recount that follows

this statement, well.  You offer this with all the seeming certainty of

fact, which is precisely what we don't have here.  We have multiple

perspectives.  Read the introduction to _The_Dark_Haired_Girl_ where Paul

Williams writes of the problems of "the unreliable narrator" that PKD

certainly was (there's even a warning on the copyright page about this).


For instance, it is not generally acknowledged that PKD lived in an area

where drug dealers hung out.  It's my opinion that when his house was

broken into in the early 70s (around the time of Vancouver) it was actually

the police conducting a raid (he also noticed people watching him before

this I believe).  This would account for the "mil-grade plastique" as you

put it, as they looked through his safe, and, of course, why they took his

cancelled checks (to see what other dealers he may have been in contact

with if he *was* a dealer himself--he wasn't of course, thus the cover-up

later by presumably highly embarrassed police).  Paranoia is "infectious,"

he probably had it accentuated by the nearby dealers.


Perhaps the person who recently posted, who described herself as one of

PKD's dark-haired girls can tell us if she knows anything more about this?


These are just my opinions you understand and they're probably as invalid

as the next guy's, but I think it's better not to just uncritically accept

everything PKD said (he changed his mind so often anyway, as was ably shown

in Patricia Warrick's excellent _Mind_in_Motion_).  That statement applies

to the March 1974 events as well.  But you're certainly right to recommend

_The_Dark_Haired_Girl_; a real insightful book.


And anyway, let's not lose sight of what's really important: his brilliant

fiction.


Comments?

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Date: 24 Feb 89 02:39:55 GMT

From: jac@paul.rutgers.edu (J. A. Chandross)

Subject: Re: PKD and the events of 1974/1975


ELE@PSUVM.BITNET (Jeremy Crampton) writes:

> As for the "para-military" group and the story you recount that follows

> this statement, well.  You offer this with all the seeming certainty of

> fact, which is precisely what we don't have here.  We have multiple

> perspectives.  Read the introduction to _The_Dark_Haired_Girl_ where Paul

> Williams writes of the problems of "the unreliable narrator" that PKD

> certainly was (there's even a warning on the copyright page about this).


I have read the introduction.  PKD's description of the events of the

1970's were consistent with the narration in _Only Apparently Real_.  I

don't think a paranoid schizophrenic or even a very good (and very sane)

liar could fabricate such a reasonable sequence of events and keep the

delivery so consistent.  Liars get caught up by little things since the

universes they present are not self-consistent.  As far as diminished

mental capacity goes, check out a neuropsychology book if you want to look

at the reasoning processes and capacity of a schizophrenic. Not what you'd

call impressive.  PKD's description of the breaking fits the facts much too

well to be an outright fabrication.  And a little poetic license could not

have distorted reality enough to fit the facts.


Your joe average thief does not blow a fire-proof safe.  PKD came home and

found asbestos all over the place.  Furthermore, he found wet towels which

were used to muffle the fire burst (although PKD did not find this the

meaning of the towels for several years.)  This is the work of a

demolitions expert.  Finally, there were footprints in the asbestos of

military boots, clearly identified as such by their last.  It is very easy

to find plastique nowadays (thanks to the Soviets), but it was not quite so

easy in the early 70's.  You had to have some serious connections.


> It's my opinion that when his house was broken into in the early 70s

> (around the time of Vancouver) it was actually the police conducting a

> raid (he also noticed people watching him before this I believe).  This

> would account for the "mil-grade plastique" as you put it, as they looked

> through his safe, and, of course, why they took his cancelled checks (to

> see what other dealers he may have been in contact with if he *was* a

> dealer


This is not very likely.  What dealer writes a check?  And what supplier

*takes* a check.  While PKD had turned his house into a haven for drug

users (who also dealt), he was not a dealer or user himself.  It makes a

lot more sense that certain government groups were not amused by the

Aramchek references and might have decided to do a little checking up on

him.  Nixon had such operations initiated throughout his presidency.

Remember the plumbers?  They did the jobs that the CIA and FBI *refused* to

have anything to do with.  PKD personally believed that it was either a

neo-Nazi or Panther group (heavy emphasis on the Panthers).  I doubt that

we will ever know for sure, but I am inclined to believe his account,

Williams testimony to the contrary.


The man may have written fiction, but I know enough of how organizations

like the CIA work to believe him on this one.


Jonathan A. Chandross

Internet: jac@paul.rutgers.edu

Uucp: rutgers!jac@paul.rutgers.edu

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Date: 24 Feb 89 22:38:54 GMT

From: llt@peregrine.peregrine.com (Taylor)

Subject: Re: PKD and the events of 1974/1975


I don't yet know how to quote from an article, but to respond to Jonathan

Chandross and Jeremy Crampton and your postings regarding the break-in at

Phil's house and the introduction to the Dark-Haired Girl (of which I am

one -- can we just call me Linda, please?):


First of all, the dates here are somewhat wrong. When I met Phil in 1972,

the break-in was (and continued to be for years) a major topic of

conversation. It came up often. Some details were consistent, others were

mentioned only once or twice. The missing checks were in the first category

- -- in the second was the subject of grapes. I can't remember whether they

took grapes or left grapes but something about grapes and the break-in

wigged Phil out a lot.  Also, since I missed the original posting that

triggered this discussion, I don't know where the original poster heard

about this.  The break-in had taken place before I met him; my impression

was late sixties. I'm feeling like "If I'd known there was gonna be a test

I would have listened better."


My impression at the time was that something clearly happened. But how much

of this story has been embellished over time is not clear.


But I do have some personal experience of Phil taking something that had

the potential to be major and blowing it entirely out of proportion.


For example, in 1972 I lived down the street from Phil. We all had

apartments close to Cal State Fullerton. (When I say "we all" I refer to

Phil and Tim Powers and others you will know if you read The Dark- Haired

Girl; Jim Blaylock and K.W. Jeter were friends of Tim's and later, Phil's,

although they did not live in our area.


One day I received notification from my landlord that the place was going

to be fumigated, we should remove everything from the cupboards, pull

drawers and their contents out and cover everything up. Then, we were to

vacate the premises for several hours.


I went over to Phil's and hung out; at the appointed hour I returned to my

apartment. When I got there, I saw that, much to my horror, they had also

pulled the drawers out of my dresser, and the top one, placed front and

center on my bed had a "lid" in it. I figured I was busted for sure, and

called Phil, looking for reassurance and possibly help. I think that, in

reality, I wasn't too scared, but, since Phil thrived on crisis, those of

us who were able to deliver crises were richly rewarded. This time was no

exception.


In no time at all, Phil had created a plan to thwart the narcs and confound

the police. It had to do with going to nearly every Carl's Junior in Orange

County and buying something, the end purpose was to have Carl's Junior bags

from so many locations that tracing the original purchaser would be nearly

impossible.  Then, we would put a little bit of the marijuana in each bag.

Then, we would all take as many cars as possible, each containing Carl's

Junior bags with little stashes in them and fan out, depositing Carl's

Junior bags in Dumpsters and trash cans all over Orange County. I loved

this plan, I thought it was hilarious.  Phil, however, was dead serious. He

wanted to put this plan into action. He couldn't let go of it. He analyzed

it and analyzed it and came close to convincing me, at least, that this was

only a step away from our own break-ins; almost certainly we were now under

surveillance. Phil would look out the window and point out the "undercover"

cars that were out there, only minutes away from breaking through the door.


Yes, please do read the introduction to The Dark-Haired Girl, and believe

Paul when he says that Phil is an unreliable narrator. I do not mean to

give the impression of belittling Phil and his enormously important

contributions. I was then, and am now, in complete awe of his genius. I

have yet to have an experience that comes close to discussions (about

anything) that took place with Phil, whether it was just the two of us or a

roomful of people.  But, yes, for Phil, reality was distorted. I'm sorry,

but that's the way it was.


I've written a response to the material that appeared about me in The Dark

Haired Girl at Paul Williams' invitation. In it, I explore my experience of

this subject in more depth, and relate more events. As of this writing,

Paul was considering publishing it in the PKDS newsletter. In his words, he

feels that it will be a breakthrough for people to read about this side of

Phil.  Specifically, what triggered my response was Paul's comment in the

introduction to TDHG that Phil was mad as a hatter, with aplogies to Tim.

Tim remains a staunch defender of Phil (or should I say to his image of

Phil). But, enough of that for now.  Read the newsletter.


By the way, Jonathan, where did you hear that "PKD had turned his house

into a haven for drug users?" I'm not denying this, because I don't know,

it's just that I keep learning more and more, and bits and pieces get

filled in here and there; I don't want to accept all information

indiscriminately without checking it out first.


And anyway, to paraphrase Jeremy, "...let's not lose sight of what's really

important: his brilliant writing."

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Date: 28 Feb 89 01:28:29 GMT

From: llt@peregrine.peregrine.com (Taylor)

Subject: Re: PKD and the events of 1974/1975


Boy am I amazed at how quickly apocrypha has descended upon us. What's

amazing about the subject of the break-in of Phil's house is that it is as

least as apocryphal now as it was at the time! (As far as speculation and

ever-changing.)


I ran across the following in the second issue of the PKDS newsletter.  Tim

Powers had provided some random musings which included this:


..."Sitting around in the living room...over many a jug of cheap Chianti,

Phil used to tell me about his days in Marin County...  and of course,

endless retellings and speculations about the time his house in San Rafael

was so spectacularly broken into in 1971.  Here are a couple of details on

that subject that may not have been published anywhere: all *open* cans or

packages, and all perishable food, were taken away, almost as though the

intruders knew of some contamination the food might have been exposed to;

Phil's car had been monkeyed with so that it wouldn't drive, but he

managed, impelled by a feeling of impending disaster, to get it to

move...he got a few miles away before it stopped for good (it was emitting

clouds of black smoke by this time, he said), and he stayed away from his

house all day...  he returned at night in a cab, and though the driver went

up to the house with him, the man fled when he saw the evidences of the

break-in, and refused to call the police.


"As I'd listen to Phil tell all these stories, I'd become certain that the

authorities must still be keeping any eye on him, and probably had the

apartment bugged, and therefore knew that *I* had heard all these secrets.

I was always expecting to be shot, or grabbed and taken away to some secret

prison camp in the mountains, as I left his place.  And Phil had recently

bought the Stones album "Sticky Fingers" and it was always playing in the

background, and I still can't hear "Sister Morphine" or "Moonlight Mile"

without instantly being back in that living room, me pouched in an old

brown vinyl beanbag chair, and Phil on the couch, the bottle on the table

between us, Phil frowning as he decided how much of some awful story he

dared reveal to me ("and if I told you the rest of it, Powers, you'd go

crazy.") and me nervously gulping wine and glancing at the window, afraid

I'd see a huge, diseased alien face peering in."


Phil was a wonderful storyteller, as all of us know, that being the common

thread among those of us communicating here. And his paranoia was powerful

and contagious. I also was convinced that, if indeed, his house had been

broken into by subversive groups, or worse, the government, then I too, by

association, was probably in big trouble. There was no doubt (at least not

much) that Phil's house had been broken into. But none of us had any way of

knowing how much of the details had been, well, embellished, to fit the

theory. Again, will someone let me know where the original information

about this came from?


Linda

llt@Peregrine.COM

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020

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 SFL Archives Vol 15b

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100% completion, 86 bookmarks

-SFL Vol 15b Book mentions: PHULES COMPANY, ZORK CHRONICLES, SEA OF GLASS, THE FACE OF MINE ENEMY, GAMEPLAYERS OF ZAN, WIZARD OF THE PIGEONS, RED STORM RISING, THE LEAKY ESTABLISHMENT, THE LAST WHALES, SPACE BY THE TALE, DHALGREN, TWO PLANETS, MOON PROSPECTOR, THE PUBLIC HATING, THE IRON STAR, DEATHGATE (book  series), BORDERTOWN & BORDERLAND, ISHMAEL, CYTEEN, PARTICOLORED UNICORN, PHOENIX, VAMPIRE$, JURASSIC PARK.

-Pop Culture mentions; the soap opera GUIDING LIGHT,  whatever "ERBitis" is, non-American SFLer's ask "Who is Mr. T?", Multi-User Domains (MUDs), Saddam Hussein, the Watchung Mountains of New Jersey, the EMPIRE OF THE PETAL THRONE rpg, "California-In-Space" syndrome, the re-release of a semi-restored version of METROPOLIS 1927, BARDS TALE 1, the Chewbacca Star Wars Holiday Special, I DAMIANO the cRPG, 

SFL movie & TV series mentions: CHERRY 2000, GHOST 1990, ARANCHNAPHOBIA 1990, WICKER MAN 1973, QUEEN OF BLOOD, FLATLINERS, DARKMAN 1990, Japanese anime LENSMAN, THE FLASH 1990 tv series, the 1980's COSBY show, the SIMPSONS, MONSTERS tv series, PREDATOR 2, METROPOLIS 1927, Chewbacca Star Wars Holiday Special, IT 1990 tv-movie, DARK STAR,  ROBOT JOX, MISERY, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS

-SFLer's continue to discuss the terrible and toxic behavior of fans and authors at SF&F conventions. Examples given of terrible, or inciting conduct on both sides. Jerry Pournelle gets revealed as one of the "screaming at fans/constantly drunk" bad conduct SF&F authors at SF&F conventions. 

-Discussion of EE Smith's life and SF writing career during the gold age - post World War 2 pulp SF era, while other SFLers try to explain away the creepier elements in Jack Chalker's stories, and other SFLers start seeing 10 layers of allusion and meta-commentary in Samuel R Delany's DHALGREN.

-More Raymond E Feist series chat, more Steven Brust series chat, more Bujold story chat, more Mercedes Lackey story chat, more Stanislaw Lem story chat, lots of CYTEEN theory-crafting, more gilding of John W Campbell's editorship skills driving SF to it's higher points. 

-The BOSKONE convention in Springfield MA gets downsized again for the 3rd straight year while the totally new convention ARISIA run by the same group doing BOSKONE gets 15 miles closer to the holy land aka Boston MA on year 2.

-SFLers mention the time when Scientologists alleged did a mass harassment campaign vs L Sprague DeCamp after DeCamp debunked some Scientology related concepts and beliefs.

-Paperback book pricing in 1990: $5.95

-TSR pulling a 2020 Disney tactic and deciding to not pay out royalties for any of the DRAGONLANCE sequels written by Margaret Weis & Tracey Hickman, which explains why those two suddenly started producing new not-Dragonlance/not-Star Wars fiction. SFLer's also mention Fizban, uh NABZIF? appearing in the DEATHGATE series books.

-The BBC refuses to schedule DOCTOR WHO for a 27th season in 1990, effectively putting the tv series into a timeless limbo forever.

(2020 note: Yes, I know the 1996 Paul McGann DOCTOR WHO movie happened, and that DOCTOR WHO  eventually got rebooted in 2005, however that was 6 & 15 yrs in the future, respectively.)

-Barbara Hambly grafting the DOCTOR WHO universe onto her STAR TREK novel ISHMAEL, Stephen Donaldson is quoted as mentioned that he is working on a new science-fiction trilogy called the GAP CYCLE, and a essay-introduction by  Kevin J Anderson on writing the GAMEARTH Trilogy gets reposted in full to the SF-LOVERS mailing list.

-1st casting news for THE TERMINATOR 2 comes out, along with rumors of office buildings already being leased out for movie location shooting. 

-"What defines a Cyborg?" chat kicked off by Terminator 2's announcement, which leads to STAR WARS chat, and other fiction that has humanoid robots/body part replacement, body part enhancements like eyeglasses.

-The emergence of more HP Lovecraft scholars, and modern 1980s-1990s fiction embracing the CTHULHU MYTHOS wholesale

-Jean Airey(?) allegedly being ripped off by a book publishing company and issuing a open letter about sending fans a photocopy of the work if they send her a self-address envelope with the correct postage on it.

-STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION discussion. SFLer's were excited with Shelby and had hopes of Shelby taking the 1st officer permanently w/ Riker as the new Captain of the Enterprise 1701-C. StarFleet ships not having bombs slash nuclear missiles. The UK gets the 1st season of ST:TNG as the 4th season of ST:TNG airs in the US, and the UK SFLer reactions to season 1 are interesting reads. Certain episodes of ST:TNG being banned in the UK, like the episode with a throwaway line about Irish reunification.

-The RPG EMPIRE OF THE PETAL THRONE having a extremely hardcore magic system that involved gouging out eyes, bathing in mothers blood, sacrificing dozens of virgins.

-A weird aside about the portraits in the recent Illustrated Guide to AMBER being the IRL people who Roger Zelazny based a bunch of AMBER series characters on....and those IRL people forming a AMBER SOCIETY SCA group and becoming next-level stalker invested in their AMBER counterparts to the point of physically shunning someone who Zelazny killed off in the AMBER stories.

(2020 note: I hope this is just next-level bullshit gossip, but I suspect not.) 

-PREDATOR 2 pre-release and post-release discussion covers lots of ground, including the Aliens vs Predator teaser, Predator hunting rules, who owned that old pistol, why the US Feds were dumb, etc.

-Requests for Vampire Fiction(alien/fantasy/Sime:Gen/future/Anne Rice/etc), Requests for Avianoid fiction, Requests for science-fiction Cosmic String stories, requests for fiction with Stasis Field elements in them, etc.

-Philip K Dick discussion in 4 parts: SFLers claim PKD threw away a financial windfall to write something else, financial windfall rumor gets hard numbers, financial windfall rumor discredited, and Vonda McIntyre closes out the entire discussion by posting a open letter from PKD's final literary agent Russell Galen about PKD's work. 

-Piers Anthony starts their own 800 number, and many of the resident SFL authors are totally cool with that seethe with jealousy.

(2020 note: 800 numbers were a big thing during the 1970s -1990s before social media & texting took away the need to call phone numbers)

-Discussion of ST:TNG spaceship battle tactics in season 3 finale had a weird aside comment about the US Air Forces experiences in Vietnam lead to tactics changes & rebirth of the TOP GUN advanced fighter plane pilot training schools 

-Extended discussion of 2 Fred Saberhagen series (EMPIRE OF THE EAST, BOOKS OF SWORDS) in ways that modern SF&F fandom debate the minutia of the GAME OF THRONES & MALAZAN series. Aka what matchup would win, did X character really die, who is this mysterious masked character, etc.

-1950's pulp SF CITIES IN SPACE series discussion, with SFLer's having fond memories of the technology & the wandering space-Okie gimmick.

-Ever since the Netherlands won the WorldCon 1990 hosting gig, Worldcon 1990 notices about how to register for it/what cool things existed there for 3 yrs.Therefore it was pretty disappointing when only one person(a Worldcon 1990 convention organizer) ended up discussing WorldCon 1990.

-Lloyd Abbey's THE LAST WHALES having "..considerable amounts of  cetacean sex, which should induce a becoming humility in all human readers.."

-ALIEN NATION the tv-series is officially cancelled by FOX, fans of the tv series start a letter writing campaign to get the decision reversed.

(2020 note: The letter writing campaign would be partially successful..two or three ALIEN NATION tv-movies happened due to the letter writing campaign.) 

-EC Tubb's DUMAREST series being brought up, again, as one of the main world-building inspirations for the TRAVELLER RPG.

-SFL reviewer-idiot Mark Leeper completely plagiarizes a newspaper career review of Ray Harryhausen from back when CLASH OF THE TITANS 1981 came out, nobody calls them on their bullshit. Meanwhile Evelyn Leeper was nominated for the 1990 Best Fan Writer Hugo for as recognition for all of her unpaid SF&F media reviewer posts across USENET.

-Return of Tolkienian discussion to the SFL Archives after 2 years of silence. SFLer's debate who delivered the killing blow on the Angmar WitchKing ShadowWraith, what Balrog's canonically look like, the mechanics of elf souls vs mankind souls and where do Tolkien half-elf souls/go when they die?

-The SFWA White Knight Chug Von Rospach was mostly absent from VOL 15B. Vonda McIntyre wiped out alot of his illusionary positionr as a SF&F authority figure when she posted the open letter from PKD's literary agent Russell Galen. However the final insult slash diss to Chuq was probably when someone asked for SF&F fanzine recommendations midway through VOL 15B and no-one, no-one at all mentioned his fanzine, OtherRealms(?).

-SFL VOL 15B closes out with Vonda McIntyre posting the first 3 or 4 pages of her 1990 novel TRANSITION to the SF-LOVERS mailing list. 


Thursday, November 26, 2020

SFL Archives Vol 14 readthrough update 01

SFL Archives Vol 14

7.5 mb raw text file

30 % completion, 45 bookmarks.

-Robert Tappan Morris's Internet Worm attack of 1988  gets mentioned as a brief sidenote in the SFL Archives.

(2020 note: This has been one of things I've been waiting to show up since Vol 02 or so of doing this SFL Archives readthrough attempt.) 

-SFLer's ask "What is the earliest historical fiction that you know of?"

-STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION Picard vs STAR TREK: THE ORGINAL SERIES Kirk comparisons start happening. One SFLer uses the 1988 George Bush vs Michael Dukakis presidental election debates as to how they perceive Kirk & Picard.

(2020 note: This is one of the things I thought would happen ASAP in the SF-LOVERS mailing list once Star Trek: TNG aired. That it took midway through season 2 of TNG to happen is gratifying.)

-Constant re-occurring BLADERUNNER 1982 the movie discussion. The oddball replicant count in the movie, differences in the movie vs the book, Replicant memories, and "are the pictures Deckard looks at in the movie holograms?" given how small things move in them/are visible changing up the viewing angle.

-Stephen King book discussion: The Gunslinger book 2: DRAWING OF THE THREE comes out, and minor discussion of a Stephen King short story about matter teleportation (Jaunt?).

-First rumors of turning the WATCHMEN graphic novel into a movie start up, and some SFLer's think it a Watchmen adaptation might work better as tv-series.

(2020 note: Both possibilities happened, eventually, only extremely later than SFLers of 1989 expected.)

-Background details about why the movie BUCKAROO BANZAI 1984 is never getting a sequel. TLDR: 20th Century Fox f*cked themselves over multiple times, especially selling off ALL the videotape rights of Buckaroo Banzai 1984 for a pittance, then watched in impotent anger as the buyer of the videotape rights made a 2000% profit when Buckaroo Banzai went to videotape. 

-An explanation of exactly what roles & duties story/book packagers perform liasioning between literary agents, authors, and publishers; using Byron Preiss as an example.

-Three movies under production in early 1989 all using deep underwater settings/similar sounding plots: DEEPSTAR SIX, THE ABYSS and LEVIATHAN.

-J. Michael Straczynski anecdotes about behind the scenes production problems for the 1980's  revamp of THE TWILIGHT ZONE. SFLer's also note Straczynski's work as story editor for the now mostly forgotten CAPTAIN VIDEO childrens tv series.

-SFLer's start discussing "O LUCKY MAN!", a 1973 UK movie, and everything about it/in it sounds extremely bizarre. 

-Gay characters in SF (and Fantasy) discussion. Lots of interesting examples come up.

-Philip K Dick discussion, 1989 edition: PKD's paranoia about a home invasion, the ongoing changes of how PKD viewed the home invasion as his mental health declined, and one of PKD's "Dark-Haired Girls" comments on her PKD experiences in the early 1970's.

(2020 note: Not sure, but I think this the same Dark-Haired Girl that commented on her experiences with PKD back in Vol 03?/Vol 04/Vol 05? It was deeply fascinating and amazing when the DHG related PKD's plan to confuse/fuck the narcs that were constantly monitoring him.)

-A unofficial "CAN YOU OUT CYBERPROSE WILLIAM GIBSON/other cyberpunk writers?" SF-LOVERS challenge is issued, and as of mid May 1989, no SFLer has responded to the challenge.

(2020 note: Finished reading SFL Archives 1989, and no one rose to the challenge.)

-People managing the Hugo Awards nominations & vote counting process feel compelled to post about the existing procedures multiple times and insist nothing will go wrong for the 1989 Hugo Awards nomination & vote counting process, like what happened at WorldCon 1989.

-PLAGUE style stoy discussion, which seem very on-point from a 2020 perspective, with a resurgence of juvenile focused novels and television entertainment. 

-First SFL Archives mention of the 1989 movie TOTAL RECALL starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

-Julian May's PLIOSCENE COMPANION collection discussion, with special note made of how Julian May had most of the series planned out, and how the entire series setting was inspired by a kickass cosplay outfit Julian May designed/wore at a 1970's sci-fi convention.  

-THE TIDES OF GOD by Ted Reynolds discussion causing minor meltdowns by SFL people regarding religion, free will, and the Dark Ages only being European subcontinent based, not global. 

-Suzette Haden Elgin's OZARK TRILOGY being written as a direct response to all the sexist and dimissive behavior by male Sci-Fi writers towards women at convention panels.

-1989 anecdotes of how Glen Cook composed and wrote most of his stories/novels while working at General Motors, with special note taken of the timing required to perform his assembly line duties and write while on the assembly line

-A poll of what science-fiction tv series SFLer's thought were the worse of all time results in LOST IN SPACE "winning" the poll. A SFLer notes that no recent sci-fi related TV series got mentioned, and listed out a whole bunch of recentish 1980's sci-fi tv shows that had aired on US network television such as SMALL WONDER and OUT OF THIS WORLD. 

-A SFLer who requested stories abut the "introduction of anti-matter in science-fiction" comments on the responses they received from SFLers. 

(2020 note: the hurtful note when mentioning how a SFLer told them to look in the OED Supplement Vol 01 for references to anti-matter are the main reason I bothered mentioning this.)

-One SFLer noted the subgenre of "black vehicle scifi tv series of the 1980's" using AIRWOLF, STREET HAWK, and KNIGHT RIDER that all seemed to revolve around similar plots and setups.

-THE DESERT PEACH -a comic book about "The Desert Fox's pretty brother", based on Dona Barr's large fund of insider stories on the German army.

-Color coded convention badges/how various professional & amateur conventions handled convention security.

(2020 note: All these things will seem extremely quaint for people used to wifi networking & RFID badges at "modern" conventions.)

-Anecdotes of using a Larry Niven style RINGWORLD as Wargamer battle-royale setting. And how everything got derailed when one wargamer had howitzer's on their army list, and the opponent protested to the GM about needing special rules to adjust for the "coriolis forces experienced on a  Ringworld". Years later, allegedly, these two wargamers are still working out a "general set of equations for computing the trajectory of an object launched from the surface of a Ringworld."

-A college aged Jeff Vogel, who would go on to create the GENEFORGE & AVERNUM & EXILE & AVADON series of games posts about the TSR Dragonlance settings and the Dragonlance novels written.

-RED DWARF tv series part two: which covers most of the events/episodes of Red Dwarf series 1.

-Ed Greenwood at GENCON 1988 explains to a SFLer why his Forgotten Realms novel SPELLFIRE was so disjointed. Apparently, Greenwood wanted to make Spellfire mostly about his author-insert Elminster and Elminster's family in a Nine Princes of Amber way, but the TSR book editors said no.

(2020 note: It would take 6 more years for Ed Greenwood to get the first of his many "The Mary Sue adventures of Elminster" published, during the final stages of TSR's "publish everything, we need the quarterly product release statements to look amazing". 1 year later, TSR went bankrupt and got bought by Wizards of the Coast.)

-John Cramer uses the Internet to post a "open letter reply" to comments made about his "hard SF novel TWISTOR".

(2020 note: Authors posting open letter comments were not a common thing on the Internet at this point in 1989, so I felt this was of special archival interest.)


Sunday, October 25, 2020

SFL Archives Vol 13 readthrough update 02

 SFL Archives Vol 13

5.9 mb raw text file

30% completion, 59 bookmarks

-1988 technology level: An SFLer is theory-crafting a electronic time capsule with a variable lifespan of 50-200 years, but can't figure out the KISS timing method used to "activate" slash open the time capsule, or the long term power solution for it. A few SFLer's respond with "use radioactively decaying elements for the timer/power elements"....after all the request was for KISS methods not easy or cheap methods

(2020 note: In this case, KISS stands for "Keep It Simple, Stupid", not the 1970's/80's band.)

-BOSKONE 25 happens and it is a massive karmic letdown. The BOSKONE 25 convention was kicked out of Boston after the hijinks of BOSKONE 24, and took place in downtown Springfield MA in two separate locations. The 2 SFLer's who bothered mentioning BOSKONE 25 noted the anemic attendance, lackluster scheduled convention panels, lack of costumes/cosplayers, and a utter lack of enthusiasm everywhere.

(2020 note: There was a staggering amount of drama about what happened at BOSKONE 24 & the revised convention format for BOSKONE 25 in SFL Vol 12a & 12b.)

-Flying car debate lead to discussion of STOL/VTOL aircraft and what take-off and landing requirements they require vs commercial jet aircraft & military planes.

-One of the first mentions of Ted Nelson and their masterwork COMPUTER LIB/DREAM MACHINES

(2020 note: Ted Nelson basically predicted everything about the Internet back in 1974. Yes, seriously.)

-A weird 1960's movie called THE MONITORS, brief discussion of Dean Ing's mormon-assassin survivalist series, THE JUPITER THEFT as the answer to the identify-this-story request that involved planets moving due to relativistic spacecraft speeds, 1988 book publishers doing 2020 style price rip-offs when releasing Samuel Beckett's THE LOST ONES, now long forgotten TV series PROBE and THE HIGHWAYMEN.

 -SFLer's comment on various republished/newly revised editions of Philip K Dick's work, with explanations as to why two conflicting versions of THE UNTELEPORTED MAN exist.

-Belated SFL Archives death notices for Randall Garrett and C.L. Moore.

-First SFL Archives mention of Tim Powers ON STRANGER TIDES, which most people know vis osmosis of Disney Park rides and the PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN movies.

-RED DWARF the tv-series premieres, and most SFLer's do not like it, but seem interested enough in the premise and the episodes to keep watching it.

-1988 SFLer's comment on the fascination scifi & mil-fiction authors having with writing Nazi regime alternate history stories/book series, with various Nazi leaders in the "good-guy" roles. 

(2020 note: this trend would note stop for a while, arguably it's still going on.)

-Chuq Von Rospach, SFWA crusader, highly recommends a David Gerrold YA book. And I'm just going to wholesale quote Rospach's recommendation because it goes places.  

The third book is Gerrold's, and it's LOTS of fun. Imagine a YA book with

cussing, cannibalism, orgies, rape, torture, etc. etc. etc. Better, that

stuff is all written in so that kids probably will never see it -- and it's

one of the most fun books I've ever read from Gerrold. Probably a little

too intense for some kids, frankly, but for adults, I'd call this the

sleeper of the year (good, but generally overlooked). It's a Walker &

Company hardback, by the way, ISBN 0-8027-6688-9 (data from otherrealms

#19).

-Including ISBN codes in SFL Archives book reviews/SFL Archives book recommendations suddenly becomes a thing.

(2020 note: One of the SFLer's half-doxxed themselves as a research librarian back in January 1988, offering their help if other SLFer's needed assistance looking up books/stories/authors. Suspect the ISBN codes are SFLer's using them as a look-up source or realizing the beautiful of ISBN code lookups independently.)

-First SFL Archives mention of Richard Kadrey and their cyberpunk story METROPHAGE

(2020 note: This was fun, for various reasons. Circa 2020, Kadrey has been on the SANDMAN SLIM kick for a while, and finding out Kadrey was once able to write characters that didn't revolve around remembering old monster films/old italian grindhouse movies was amusing and informative.)

-C.S. Lewis & NARNIA discussion does the impossible, and drowns out attempts at reviving Robert Heinlein chat, JRR Tolkien chat, AND Stephen Donaldson chat. Narnia and CS Lewis discussion brings up various things, with the christianity ting and JRR Tolkien maybe converting CS Lewis to Christianity coming up.

-The Vonda McIntyre Internet mentioned in SFL Vol 12 readthrough update 01 happens, and some of Vonda McIntyre's more pertinent replies get requoted. McIntyre wrote a STAR TREK novel that focused on the well-known TOS crew as they gradually moved towards serving together on the NCC-1701 Enterprise. SFL & Star Trek fan reaction to that novel was rough to extremely angry when it came out and got reviewed.

(2020 note: McIntyre revealing in the inteview that she relied exclusively on material from Gene Roddenberry and George Takei when coming up with character backgrounds and character names was very very amusing given the very angry reactions from SFLer's about not using fan-canon first names for TOS cast members.)

-ARTHURIAN MYTHOS chat comes up, without any outside influence such as a recent Arthurian mythos movie, or book. Heavy discussion of Arthurian Mythos characters, modern authors takes on Arthurian Mythos, and lots of sources and reading list recommendations for Arthurian Mythos connected works.

(2020 note: Most of these posts are probably old news for Arthurian Mythos devotees, however some of the posts might contain new material or now-forgotten source material.) 

-A SFLer wants to know how fact-based David Drake's HAMMERS SLAMMERS stories are, especially regarding Iridium as being used as armor/construction material in the Slammers hover-tanks. Various SFLer's response, citing Iridium as plausible, but also taking note of the various IRL issues with the Hammer's Slammers company, and the stacked writing David Drake used in the Hammers Slammers stories. 

-APRIL FOOLS DAY 1988, and the SFL Archives April Fools Day jokes/fake news/posts. A slight "no that was a joke" backlash occurs when the SF-LOVERS mailing list maintainer joins in the fun with a "LAST ISSUE/we're getting shutdown due to the U.S. Government" post.

-An SFLer requests U.S. Civil War science-fiction stories. And gets some feedback, including another SFLer giving U.S. Civil War stories recommendations in a Southern American accent for their entire post, including their name.

(2020 note: Harry Turtledove would  go on to fulfill this request for U.S. Civil War science-fiction stories for at least 2 decades.)

Monday, September 7, 2020

SFL Archives Vol 05 readthrough

SFL Vol 05 was a extremely quick read in comparison to the first SFL 4 volumes. Almost every third SFL Digest update started with apologies to the SFL subscribers for extended downtime/missed SFL Digest updates caused by hardware failure.

-Everyone has opinions on the Dean Machine Drive/Analog magazine fiasco, which I am currently 3% clued in about (and climbing) just from reading the ongoing not-Mad posts from BigName people on the subject. 

(2020 sidenote: Back in the 19th century, someone claimed to have detected people living on the moon, attributing the discovery of Moon lifeforms to world famous astronomer John Herschel. 19th century hoax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moon_Hoax

The Dean Machine Drive is a similar thing, a fake news event to drive up sales when readers want to know more/debunk the published story. (an Analog Magazine article about a weight reducing prototype spacedrive). Only it was the godfather of pulp scifi, John W Campbell, in full "I WANT TO BELIEVE" mode backing up the Dean Machine Drive bullshit claim. )

-Robert Heinlein's FRIDAY came out, and gets very mixed SFL reviews, even from the Heinlein Defense squad. One particularly virulent Heinlein Squad poster drops the mask completely and blames "incorrect usages of grammar" inside FRIDAY as the *WINK* real reason *WINK* why they hate Heinlein's FRIDAY.....as in "how dare this female main character dare to use feminine pronouns when describing things in book."

-More STAR TREK 2 movie chat, with press tours about Spock dying yes/no driving talk about still a pipe-dream Star Trek 3.

-Someone complains about getting sent 12 duplicate issues of the latest SFL digest, and the impact of having to store 12 copies of the SFL Digest email on their system, even for one day. Remember, the overall computer resources and network bandwidth of 1982 were a rounding error of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the computing power and bandwidth available to the year 2020.

-EMPIRE STRIKES BACK gets scheduled for a 1982 wintertime re-release in theaters, while A NEW HOPE gets teased as being re-released to the theaters for the 3rd or 4th time since it originally came out in 1977

-I originally thought that "FOONLEY" computer system chat was some kind of delayed April 1st 1982 SFL joke, but no. Judging from the series of not-Mad rebuttal comments, I theorized that the Foonley computer architecture was the precursor of what became the RISC/SPARC computer architecture.....however I was doubly wrong. Foonley architecture evolved into MIPS, an also-ran competitor project to RISC. 

-STAR TREK 2, E.T. , and POLTERGEIST came out. Many reviews of Star Trek 2 & E.T. have been posted, Star Trek 2 questions, etc.

-A few U.S. based people complain about commercials suddenly being shown in theaters before the actual movie They-Paid-2-see starts. One or two people from Europe reply saying that has been common practice for a while in Europe.

-One of the original SFLers from it's 1979 mailing list inception started up a San Francisco Bay area precursor to Nick at Nite. 

-Positive feedback on Spielberg's E.T. came in hard as SFL Vol 05 came to an end

-One thing I failed to mention in the SFL archives was that ever since the movie adaption of Philip K Dick's "DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?" aka "Bladerunner 1982" got announced, there has been massive confusion because the title "Bladerunner" comes from a completely different story/author, aka THE BLADERUNNER, a 1974 novel by Alan Nourse. So half the people discussing Bladerunner have been talking about Alan Nourse's story and getting confused when PKD's Electric Sheep gets discussed and vice versa with PKD's Electric Sheep discussion and Alan Nourse.

(2020 sidenote: Alan Nourse was a actual medical doctor slash scifi writer whose stories tended to involve medical themes. No lies, the plot and storyline of The Bladerunner 1974 seems eerily prescient of what is going on in 2020 right now/what seems to be the future of health care, and I am going to track down a copy of it asap.)

originally posted between July 12th -July 15th in the SomethingAwful forums Science Fiction Fantasy Megathread 3