Vol 09 covered all of 1984, which explains why Vol 09 never seemed to end. Reading SFL Vol 10 is going to be much worse, since Vol 10 covers the entirety of 1985 while being twice the size of the endless seeming SFL Vol 09.
-A request from the current mailing list mod for SFL subscribers to cut back on outright ads/product reviews/pricing/prices, since the SF-LOVERS mailing list runs ontop of government funded ARPANET networks/nodes and absolutely must not be seen to be selling things.
-BackStabMod can't stop posting thinly disguised product reviews about what amazing things BackStabMod has encountered recently in SFF.-anticipation for the upcoming DUNE movie has (mostly) overriden Stars
Wars chat in the SFL archives towards the end of 1984, similar to the 3
or more dedicated Dune 2020 movie threads scattered around the SA
forums. Dune comes out at end of 1984 and gets very mixed SFLer
reactions. Same thing happens with 2010, but with lesser buildup, and
more anger since 2001 the movie set such a high bar.
-lots of Thomas Pynchon chat, with how readable you find Gravity's Rainbow or how far you managed to get into GRAVITY'S RAINBOW being a litmus test for true literature fans.
-circa November 1984 Harlan Ellison discussion brings up the pitfalls of being an author, with stalker fans, asshole fans, kleptomaniac fans, fans doing "ironic hate crimes" on author property, etc.
-the movie BRAINSTORM (1983) gets mentioned again after literal years closing off a dangling thread-topic from earlier SFL archives chat (way back in Vol 3 or 4 I think). Brainstorm 1983 getting delayed lead to an interesting-to-me SFL segue into "insurance polices as applied to Hollywood movies/tv production" that I found deeply fascinating because those topics never get mentioned much.
-If you liked Iain Banks FEERSUM ENDJINN, you may want to check out Russell Hoban's "RIDDLEY WALKER", which did something similar 14 yrs before Feersum Endjinn came out.
-Fans of Tim Powers and Steven Brust: ANUBIS GATES and JHEREG both get mentioned for the first time in the SFL archives.
-heated "Is Richard Bachman a pen-name of Stephen King?" debate kicks off. The answer is Look it up yourself
-Someone does a big part-1 effort-post describing and charting out Jorge Luis Borges' "LIBRARY OF BABEL", but gets no feedback on it so the SFL effort-poster never posts part 2.
-lots of Thomas Pynchon chat, with how readable you find Gravity's Rainbow or how far you managed to get into GRAVITY'S RAINBOW being a litmus test for true literature fans.
-circa November 1984 Harlan Ellison discussion brings up the pitfalls of being an author, with stalker fans, asshole fans, kleptomaniac fans, fans doing "ironic hate crimes" on author property, etc.
-the movie BRAINSTORM (1983) gets mentioned again after literal years closing off a dangling thread-topic from earlier SFL archives chat (way back in Vol 3 or 4 I think). Brainstorm 1983 getting delayed lead to an interesting-to-me SFL segue into "insurance polices as applied to Hollywood movies/tv production" that I found deeply fascinating because those topics never get mentioned much.
-If you liked Iain Banks FEERSUM ENDJINN, you may want to check out Russell Hoban's "RIDDLEY WALKER", which did something similar 14 yrs before Feersum Endjinn came out.
-Fans of Tim Powers and Steven Brust: ANUBIS GATES and JHEREG both get mentioned for the first time in the SFL archives.
-heated "Is Richard Bachman a pen-name of Stephen King?" debate kicks off. The answer is Look it up yourself
-Someone does a big part-1 effort-post describing and charting out Jorge Luis Borges' "LIBRARY OF BABEL", but gets no feedback on it so the SFL effort-poster never posts part 2.
(2020 sidenote: I feel you brother from
16 yrs ago, f**k them.)
-Anger and debate movie book novelizations not matching up 1:1 to the movie, or vice versa has been a running theme since 1979(SFL Vol 01). BUCKAROO BANZAI (1984) breaks this trend, with the book setting the tone the movies budget/casting/directing could not match
-TERMINATOR 1 came out, starting the rise of 1980's one-liner action movies
-SFLer's bring up one of MAD MAGAZINE's earlier attempts to branch out into non-print media: the 1967 Mad Monster Party movie slash cartoon.
-Much to my disappointment, David Eddings does get mentioned for a 2nd time in SFL Vol 09. To add to the pain, a spirited defense of MZB's strongly written female characters also happens.
-1980's_BotL/Duntemann continues to troll and hate on published fiction authors, especially R. A. MacAvoy. 1980's_BotL/Duntemann also outed themselves as an author (or re-doxxed themselves since I don't keep track of all the SFL author self-doxxes) and stuff now starts to makes sense. Why? The published fiction authors being trolled and hated on managed to get book deals, while Duntemann up to this point has been unable to get book deals at all.
-the running joke "Yngvi is a louse!!" gets cited and expanded upon but never quite nailed down before SFL Vol 09 ends
-fittingly, SFL Vol 09 ends with a "Boskone XXII Filksong contest" announcement, completing the "stuff I hate seeing in the SFL archives" disappointment trifecta.
-Anger and debate movie book novelizations not matching up 1:1 to the movie, or vice versa has been a running theme since 1979(SFL Vol 01). BUCKAROO BANZAI (1984) breaks this trend, with the book setting the tone the movies budget/casting/directing could not match
-TERMINATOR 1 came out, starting the rise of 1980's one-liner action movies
-SFLer's bring up one of MAD MAGAZINE's earlier attempts to branch out into non-print media: the 1967 Mad Monster Party movie slash cartoon.
-Much to my disappointment, David Eddings does get mentioned for a 2nd time in SFL Vol 09. To add to the pain, a spirited defense of MZB's strongly written female characters also happens.
-1980's_BotL/Duntemann continues to troll and hate on published fiction authors, especially R. A. MacAvoy. 1980's_BotL/Duntemann also outed themselves as an author (or re-doxxed themselves since I don't keep track of all the SFL author self-doxxes) and stuff now starts to makes sense. Why? The published fiction authors being trolled and hated on managed to get book deals, while Duntemann up to this point has been unable to get book deals at all.
-the running joke "Yngvi is a louse!!" gets cited and expanded upon but never quite nailed down before SFL Vol 09 ends
-fittingly, SFL Vol 09 ends with a "Boskone XXII Filksong contest" announcement, completing the "stuff I hate seeing in the SFL archives" disappointment trifecta.
originally posted August 8th - August 10th in SomethingAwful forums Science Fiction Fantasy Megathread 3
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