Saturday, April 24, 2021

SFL Archives Volume 20a readthrough

SFL Archives 

3.7 mb raw text file

100% completion, 138 bookmarks

Movies, television shows referenced: A PRINCESS OF MARS (movie), MAKING OF STAR TREK VOYAGER, SEAQUEST DSV (tv-series), OUTBREAK, GODZILLA VS MOTHRA, GODZILLA VS MECHA-GODZILLA, TANK GIRL, SPECIES 1, BUGS (tv-series), SLIDERS (tv-series), VR5 (tv-series), VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED (1995), XENA WARRIOR PRINCESS(tv-series), HERCULES THE LEGENDARY JOURNIES(tv-series), WATERWORLD, LANGOLIERS (tv-series), DEADLOCK ESCAPE FROM ZONE 14, WHITE DWARF (tv-series), CASPER (1995), LIFEFORCE (1985), JOHNNY MNEMONIC, BATMAN FOREVER, PRINCE OF DARKNESS, THE THING (1982), DOCTOR WHO (1996)..

SF&F stories referenced: THE SECRET OCEANS, THE SPIRIT RING, A PRINCESS OF MARS, MATTERS END, MIDSHIPMANS HOPE, 20TH CENTURY COMPUTERS AND HOW THEY WORKED, THE SURVIVORS, WIZARDS FIRST RULE, TRIPOINT, THE SWORD, STRANGE DAYS, DARKOVER LANDFALL, GLORY SEASON, INTERFACE, LITTLE BIG, GREENTHIEVES, THE PAPER GRAIL, TOMORROW SUCKS, SUPERHEROES, ALIEN SHORES, FUTURE QUARTET, SHERLOCK HOLMES IN ORBIT, SCIENCE FICTION IN THE 20TH CENTURY, PERMUTATION CITY, THE COUNTRY OF THE BLIND, THE DYKE AND THE DYBBUK, TOURISTS, PRIMARY INVERSION, VILLAINS BY NECESSITY, RANDOM ACTS OF SENSELESS VIOLENCE, WHITE QUEEN, WEST OF EDEN, WINTER IN EDEN, THE ORDER WAR, VURT, WAKE IN DARKNESS, PORCELAIN DOVE, THE MOUNTAINS OF MAJIPOOR, FIRES OF EDEN, PICTURES AT 11, NOBODYS SON, PROFITEER, RELUCTANT VOYAGERS, A CASE OF CONSCIENCE, INTERRUPT, FLYING DUTCH, KALEIDOSCOPE CENTURY, BEGGARS AND CHOOSERS, PAWNS DREAM, LES GALAXIALES, ONLY FORWARD, APOLLO 13, THE UNUSUAL LIFE OF TRISTAN SMITH, AMMONITE, THE DIAMOND AGE, HEAVY WEATHER, FICTIONAL SPACE ESSAYS ON CONTEMPORARY SCIENCE FICTION, FLATLANDER, CITY OF BONES, WARLORD OF ANTARES, WALKING ON GLASS, MOONWISE, RAGGED WORLD, METROPOLITAN, WHO GOES THERE? 

Pop culture references: "reminds me of George from Seinfeld. Both the reader and the character know that the lie is going to foul up somehow, but the character goes on and tells it anyhow.", Wing Commander 3 CD "acting", "fang dealers" at SFF conventions, 

Technology callbacks: Pentium 90 CPU's, "negotiations with CD ROM game maker Legend", putting up a new kernel & tweaking TCP timeouts, installing dosemu, Telecommunications Devices for the Deaf (TDD), "I KNOW IT SAYS FTP, AS THE FILES ARE AT AN FTP SITE. BUT IF YOU ENTER THE LOCATION..", 2 terrible Ringworld PC games, RealAudio software.

1995 Death notices: Ian Ballantine, founder of multiple book publisher companies. Roger Zelazny, SF&F author.


-SFL Archives Vol 20a starts off with the mailing list moderator stating the various hardware and software upgrades planned for the server that runs the SF-LOVERS mailing list. Drastic cutbacks on the frequency of sending out SFL Digests are planned. At the 10% in Vol 20a, the SFL Archives comes back from 2 months of unplanned downtime (massive hardware failures), and experiences another couple of "mini" one-week outages throughout Vol 20a.

-Defenders of Jack Chalker appear, and try to explain away all the involuntary body-transformation/gender swapping/creepy sex scenarios inside Jack Chalker's stories since Well World book 1 back in 1977.

-New management has taken over on the literary estate of Edgar Rice Burroughs. Disney and the ERB estate are mentioned as working on a movie adaptation of A PRINCESS OF MARS.

(2021 note: It will take until 2012 for the much delayed A PRINCESS OF MARS movie adaptation to come out under the title JOHN CARTER (of Mars).)

-Frank Herbert discussion and the Dune series discussion. SFLers try to figure out what the face-dancers at the end of Chapterhouse Dune were planning, and are confused/not-confused by the Golden Path/The Scattering.

-A SFF convention experience blogger whose gimmick is being French-Canadian, posting half of their reviews of SFF conventions/panels/party rooms in American English, and the other half in Québécois.

-This quote could literally describe 90% of the most popular SF&F series of the 1980's & 1990's, however "seems to be a tendency to substitute torture for character building".

-There was another April Fools/April 1st SFL Archives joke this year. Essentially it was a digital POKEMON GO battle-royale based on various long-time SFLers posting styles. E. Leeper REVIEWS A BOOK. Gharlane of Eddore RANTS about a SFF tv-series, etc. 

-SFLer's start discussing Harry Harrison's EDEN fantasy book series which features a alternate timeline where dinosaurs not got wiped by a mass extinction event 66 million years ago, and have evolved into humanoid shapes and starting to interact with early homo sapiens. Some like the thought put into the various dinosaur genetic engineering/bio-technologies, others are creeped out by the lizard/human sex in the first EDEN book.

(2021 note: Harry Harrison wrote one of my favorite books ever. However even as a Harry Harrison fan, his EDEN series is a safe series to skip over. Aka DO NOT READ THEM. I WARNED YOU.)

-SFF author Daniel Keys Moran appears to accuse Paramount Studios/STAR TREK VOYAGER producers of ripping off a spec script he pitched directly to Star Trek producers back in 1993.

(2021 note: Looked this up because Daniel Keys Moran has reliably been proved to be full of shit whenever he posts. The spec script DKM pitched to Paramount/Star Trek producers ended up as the basis for STAR TREK: DS9 season 4 episode "Hard Time". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Time_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine) )

-Lists and lists of mailing server lists serving various interests as of March 1995 - May 1995.

-The Franklin Mint ripping off the creator/being involved in lawsuits with the creator of the rulesets for STAR TREK TRI-DIMENSIONAL Chess Sets.

-Someone tries critiquing James Blish's A CASE OF CONSCIENCE, and gets every single detail wrong in it. 

(2021 note: Sadly that impressive shit-posting effort does not get any responses posted to the SFL Archives.)

-L Sprague De Camp starts getting discussed and the people making arguments towards De Camp being good/salvaging the legacy of certain titles (CONAN THE BARBARIAN) make good sense.

-David Feintuch starts responding to the SFL Archives about his MIDSHIPMENS HOPE/SEAFORT SAGA series about various questions/concerns/homages to Horatio Hornblower SFLers have been discussing.

-John Barnes KALEIDOSCOPE CENTURY comes out, and nobody really feels or sees anything wrong with it intially. One or two SFLers note the vileness of the main character, the weird obsession with memes/social communication tools, but that's it.)

(2021 note: KALEIDOSCOPE CENTURY pioneered the term "SERBING" into SFF fiction. Do not look up that term unless you wantto read real life horror and war-crimes.)

-One usage for Harry Turtledoves alt-Civil War fiction stories, they redeem certain mega-fuckups of the US Civil War by.

(2021 note: Google US Civil War & the Crater for one of the really terrible mass-death mega-fuckups of the US Civil War.)

-Noted SFL shitposter Gharlane of Eddore makes a series of spectacularly wrong predictions about what upcoming tv-series XENA WARRIOR PRINCESS will be about. 

-Something about the dreaded CHTHON AWARD which I'm not going to even bother writing a year 2021 aside about.

-A whole bunch of tv series get cancelled. Space Precinct, Sliders, VR5, Earth 2, Langoliers, and fans of those cancelled tv-shows immediately start sharing mailing addresses of TV network executives in efforts to grass-roots renew those cancelled tv shows.

-A few SFLers try to man-explain the "real story" behind Apollo 13's explosion to the rest of the SFL Archives.

-OMNI magazines switches to a quarterly release schedule. 

-Cyberpunk fanzine CHEAP TRUTH gets mentioned again, with various SFLers trying to define what is "cyberpunk", and who wrote/writes cyberpunk stories.

-Heavy Robert Adams discussion, especially the hearsay factor behind the narrator of Adam's HORSECLAN setting trying to describe things to a audience decades and decades later.

-Harlan Ellison on journalists: "I am not a journalist! I do not give blow-jobs to chickens!"

-GOR series discussion. Fans of GOR bring up that many of the most popular 1980s & 1990s SFF stories are deeply more fucked up than John Norman ever got, and that GOR novels are still selling well.

-Alfred Bester discussion. WHO HE, THE COMPUTER CONNECTION, Bester burning out hard, etc.

-BABYLON 5 stuff. Insanely huge amount of Babylon 5 series discussion. I am 110% burnout on Babylon 5 fandom & reading JMS flameout/humblebrag/bus-throw/humblebrag/bitch at 100% accurate fan predictions at this point, and not going to bother writing about Babylon 5 or what JMS posted to the SF-LOVERS mailing list in detail anymore.

(2021 note: My 110% burn-out on BABYLON 5 was something I never expected to happen.)

-Charles Platt is totally not-resentfull that Octavia Butler won a MacArthur Fellows Program grant. Charles Platt is also totally not claiming the only reason Octavia Butler won a MMacArthur Fellows Program grant is because she is female and black. Oh wait, I was wrong. Charles Platt is totally resentful and extremely racist.

(2021 note: Word search SFL Archives Vol 20a for "13 Jun 1995 20:14:58 -0400" cp@panix.com (Charles Platt) to find Charles Platt's hateful email post.) 

-Gregory Benford outs himself as a "the (US Confederate States of America) South will rise AGAIN" SFF author in his GALACTIC CENTER SAGA.

-Introduction of the Changling Race aka the Dominion has more than a few 1995 SFLers seeing rip-offs from John W Campbells WHO GOES THERE short story, which of course skews into John Carpenters THE THING (1982).

-First tentative discussions of the DOCTOR WHO (1996) tv-movie. Casting still undecided, plot undecided, it will involve the BBC though.

-The SFLer who melted the fuck down about WARGAMES 1983 returns to the SF-LOVERS mailing list for the first time in 11 years to post about a Forrest J. Ackerman interview with Professor Neon(?) available via RealAudio streaming.




Sunday, April 18, 2021

SFL Archives Vol 19b readthrough 01

 SFL Archives 19b

7.8mb raw text file

100% completion, 240 bookmarks

Movies, television shows referenced: THE SHADOW (movie), WAR AMERICAN STYLE, PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES, TIMECOP, ADDAMS FAMILY VALUES, STARGATE (movie), STANLEY KUBRICK'S AI, ILL MET BY MOONLIGHT, ROBERT ANSON HEINLEINS THE PUPPET MASTERS (movie), SOLARIS 1972 (movie), JURASSIC PARK 2, THE HIDDEN 2, INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE (movie), SPECIES 1, ROGER CORMANS FANTASTIC FOUR, ED WOOD, WATERWORLD, JURASSIC PARK 1, ELM STREET 7: A NEW NIGHTMARE, NEAR DARK, VAMPIRE CIRCUS, WITHOUT WARNING, PHANTOM 2040, MARY SHELLYS FRANKENSTEIN, EARTH 2, ALIEN NATION (tv series), M.A.N.T.I.S. (tv-series), SEAQUEST DSV, X-FILES (tv-series), GARGOYLES, SPACE PRECINCT, DARKROOM (tv-series),TIME TRAX, THE INVADERS (tv-series), MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS, RED DWARF, THE TOWER OF INVERNESS (radio), LOIS AND CLARK, LOST IN SPACE (tv-series), STAR TREK GENERATIONS, SLIDERS (tv-series), BIONIC EVER AFTER?, THE THING (cartoon), CARL SAGANS CONTACT, THE GREEN SLIME, TEKWAR (tv-series), RUBY: THE ADVENTURES OF A GALACTIC GUMSHOE (radio), JOHNNY MNEMONIC.

SF&F stories referenced: RIFTWAR series, MISTWALKER, DEERSKIN, THE FIRES OF PARATIME, SERPENTS EGG, IRON DRAGONS DAUGHTER, HOMECOMING, A PLAGUE OF ANGELS, A COLLEGE OF MAGICS, 300 YEARS LATER, THE VOYAGE, THE GATE TO WOMENS COUNTRY, CADBURY THE BEAVER WHO LACKED, CHINA MOUNTAIN ZHANG, THE DRACULA TAPES, MALLWORLD, AURIAN, A NEOFANS GUIDE TO CONFUSION (non-fiction?), THE JAGUAR PRINCESS, TERMINAL COMPROMISE, SILICON MAN, BORRIBLES: ACROSS A DARK METROPOLIS, THE FERMATA, GLORY SEASON, A PRINCE AMONG MEN, WARPATH, CITY OF THE IRON FISH, PRINCE OMBRA, UNDER THE MOONS OF MARS, REVENGE OF THE ROSE, ONLY FORWARD, HEAVY WEATHER, GROWING UP WEIGHTLESS, REPLAY, WAY OF THE CLANS, FIELD OF DISHONOR, GODS OF THE WELL WORLD, THE MOUSER GOES BELOW, INVERTED WORLD, WORLDWAR: IN THE BALANCE, LOVE AND SLEEP, TROUBLE AND HER FRIENDS, PARIS IN THE TWENTIETH CENTURY, THE WELL FAVORED MAN, THE BROKEN GOD, THE SHATTERED SPHERE, FALLEN ANGELS, DOWN IN FLAMES, DIAMOND AGE, USE OF WEAPONS, TAM LIN, THE WATERWORKS, FLYING TO VALHALLA, THE TOJO VIRUS, INTERSTELLAR PIG, MAGEWORLD series, GREENTHIEVES, NOT FOR ALL THE GOLD IN IRELAND, THE HANDS OF LYR, GRAVITYS RAINBOW, DANNY DUNN series, MARTIAN TIME SLIP, LONG SHOT FOR ROSINANTE, BROTHER TO DRAGONS COMPANION TO OWLS, MINERVA WAKES, MOTHER OF STORMS, BEGGARS AND CHOOSERS, CHILD OF AN ANCIENT CITY, RED PROPHET, WHAT IF? 1. 

Pop culture references: TEKMUMEL RPG, TRAVELLER RPG, PARANOIA RPG, GURPS UPLIFT, MAGIC: THE GATHERING card game, Geraldo breaking into Al Capone's vault, River Phoenix being cast in BROKEN DREAMS (in-development movie) before overdosing, doing CD-ROM movie projects, Dave Thomas of the WENDY'S food chain appearing in BIONIC EVER AFTER?.

Technology callbacks: a True Type font-set used to print artist Real Musgrave's runes on computers, the CERN WWW Virtual Library Subject Index, the Jack Vance World Wide Web Archive, "nootropics and a file of brain-stimulating VR", files being available in ASCII LaTEX and PostScript versions, extended ellipses breaking Macintosh word-processing software, the 2nd Conference On Computers Freedom And Privacy, owning a notebook computer with a pen interface and 250mb of disk, radio shows using the Neumann Ku81 Kunstkopf "dummy head" to produce binaural audio, the JPL and High Altitude Observatory reporting that when the Pioneer probe broke the speed of sound it registered the bow-shock of a sonic boom "while in space", "BOO programs" which were utilities for converting binary files into a format that was only printable characters, the SMOFBase Project, "sail" the multiplayer sailing game that used to come with BSD systems.

1994 Death notices: Robert Lansing, TV and movie actor. Robert Bloch, SFF & Horror author.


SFL requests/discussion topics:

>Crossover Fantasies & Multi-volume books

>the golden art of creating a conspiracy/hundred+ year plots to dominate humankind stories

>Wide World Web SF/F/Horror Links

>Significant inventions predicted in SF

>Dated Science Fiction

>Science Fiction with Specific Dates

>SF for Children

>Is Kurt Vonnegut considered SF?

>Libertarian SF

>Russian SF is the best!

>First SF Heroine of Color


-SFL Archives Vol 19b starts off with a mea culpa about extended SF-LOVERS mailing list downtime. Server hardware failures, mailing list problems, 8k backlog of email messages to go through, etc.

-Extreme amounts of BABYLON 5 content. JMS started posting to the SFL Archives heavily in SFL Archives Vol 19b, so there was a overwhelming amount of Babylon 5 content in Vol 19b, even after drastic pruning out of redundant messages by the SF-LOVERS mailing list moderator. So extreme, the mailing list moderator was getting 5000 emails a week about BABYLON 5, which is insane numbers considering how limited access the Internet was/the small amount of Internet users in 1994. Each new episode of Babylon 5 airing on TV resulted in 4-5 enormous dedicated Babylon 5 SFL Digests as SFLers live-posted their reactions and theories. 

JMS posting directly to the SFL Archives & GEnie online service in 1994 was good and bad from a historic viewpoint. JMS was extremely online even by 2021 standards, and JMS got very involved in responding/posting/debunking/bragging about Babylon 5 in the SFL Archives.

(2021 note: The amount of BABYLON 5 content in 1994 Volumes 19a & 19b burned me out on BABYLON 5 fandom. I started skipping & heavily skimming B5 SFL Digests around September 1994 the same way I skim & skip reading X-Files, SeaQuest DSV, or Earth 2 dedicated SFL Digests.) 

-The internet troll obsessed with hating on Raymond Feist's RIFTWAR series ripping off the Tekumel RPG returns to the SFL Archives. No mentions of their having a 300+ bullet point comparison list of "similarities" between Tekumel RPG & the much later Riftwar books this time though.

-Discussion of the deepness & multi-layered-ness of Samuel R Delany's writing happens sporadically throughout Vol 19b. Delany's tenure as a college professor comes up a few times,as well as a few anecdotes from Delany interviews/personal appearances at events worldwide.

-High level summary of the Hugo WSFS 1994 Business meeting: A bunch of new proposed amendment changes for future Hugo Award categories & nominations: example, should the Hugo's acknowledge the differences between electronic SFF fanzines vs physical SFF fanzines?

-READERCON convention going on hiatus due to organizer burnout, drama and vandalism problems at MINICON 1994. Most 1994 convention drama hinges on the subject of convention "party rooms" and whether or not those "party rooms" should be dry/serve alcohol or allow smoking or card people for admittance. Anti-ghost reservation policies being implemented by hotels. "The Adam's Mark Hotel will not permit any guest to cook in their room." A smaller part of 1994 convention discussion is about Accessible services for disabled patrons, and how most hotel-convention venues fail to implement even the most basic measures for disabled patron access.

(2021 note: From a 2021 perspective, most of these arguments and emotional rebuttals are extremely "WTF -stares intently." tldr: Basic things that would never fly in the modern era of social media kept flying with malicious intent in SFF conventions & events of the 1930s - 1990s.)  

-TSR's brilliant business plan that would lead to bankruptcy within 6 yrs starts delivering dividends: SFLer's start off-handedly mentioning encountering piles of TSR Dragonlance books every time they visit bookstores.

-"Most of the incidents involve far more blood-letting than the law of averages would require, but I suppose that's why carnophiles read carnography" -from a review of David Drake's 1994 novel THE VOYAGE.

-The KIRK POLAND BAD PROSE COMPETITION at READERCON conventions. Essentially EYE OF ARGON readthroughs 2.0 with the same mean-toned malicious established authors "punching down" intent.

-Daniel Keys Moran discussion: The Last Dancer, The Long Run, why hasn't Bantam Books re-published any of DKM's work. Near the end of 1994, DKM posts a 1994 status update to the internet, and it is notable mostly for things that failed to happen/things that DKM failed to write/DKM being in absolute denial about Bantam Book's total done-ness with him.

-The weirdness of Philip K Dick stories. If a ending in a PKD story has a coherent ending, you can tell it wasn't written by PKD. CADBURY THE BEAVER WHO LACKED gets brought up. 

-CHUNG KUO series fixation on fake/historical/futuristic/imaginary Chinese culture, and extreme torture-muderporn elements. Anyone who is a Chung Kuo series fan invariably defends the extreme torture-murderporn elements in it as being a core storytelling piece of the setting.

-TRAVELLER RPG plot device of humans on many worlds referenced in relation to Iain Banks Culture series. TRAVELLER RPG also mentioned during discussion of Cherryh's CHANUR series (the TRAVELLER Aslan race being eeriely similar to the Cherryh's hani race.)

-One of Tanith Lee's stories undoing a beheading by talking to a magic sword and convincing it that it had never killed anybody.

-"Did Herbert write any notes for a new Dune book before he died? If so, I would have thought that one of his children (Brian, maybe) would have tried to publish the material by now."

(2021 note: Extreme laughter.)

-A brief appearance of Battletech novel pre-Clan invasion meta-plot discussion.

-Periodic discussion of L Ron Hubbard and his SFF work & his legacy throughout Vol 19b. It was very rare for more than one to four L Ron Hubbard related messages to appear in a month.    

-S.P. Somtow's 1981 short story collection MALLWORLD having references to a space station described as the most fashion and trend oriented spot in the Solar System. That space station: BABYLON 5.

(2021 note: JMS, creator of the BABYLON 5 tv-series, had a "WTF?" response to this message).

-SF author Ken MacLeod appears for the first time in the SFL Archives to post Iain Banks explaining his Culture setting for people unfamiliar with the Culture setting or who wanted technical details behind the Culture settings.

(2021 note: These notes can be found in full at http://www.vavatch.co.uk/books/banks/cultnote.htm )

-More discussions of SFF professional authors vs fandom interaction, SFF professional authors vs newbie authors, SFF professionals being utter assholes or amazing people depending on when/where/how you interacted with them.

-Artificial womb technology in SFF discussion which started off heavily in Bujold SFF territory peaks with Jo Walton deciding to post her views on pregnancy.

-Mike Resnick starts posting to SFL Archives, and from a 2021 perspective, Resnick's posts to the SFL Archives are mostly humble-bragging about being a editor-author and the strict guidelines he follows (laughs). Katherine Kerr, Jo Walton, Vonda McIntyre, and Peter David also periodically post to the SFL Archives but are way more tolerable. Lev Grossman, author of the Magicians book series also appears to have started posting to the SFL Archives.

-STARGATE 1994 movie discussion, from marketing of the movie to release. Most SFLer's liked the look & gobs of money obviously spent on the production, but hated the actual movie and wanted 100% accurate answers as to how all the technology in the movie worked asap.

(2021 note: The SFL Archives reaction to STARGATE 1994 was one of the things I have been waiting for. Their reactions are funny in retrospect, since everything they wanted answered and more got answered by over 147 hrs of tv-content just counting Stargate SG-1.)

-Periodic discussion of the DEATH GATE CYCLE book series, periodic discussion of David Eddings stories, periodic discussions of Stephen Donaldson, periodic discussions of Brust's Taltos series, periodic discussion of Cherryh stories, and Bujold and Tad Williams, and Neal Stephenson, and Orson Scott Card, and etc, etc.

-Stenn Sigurdsson returns to post another forwarded statement from David Brin to the SF-LOVERS mailing list. This time David Brin talks about his latest novel GLORY SEASON and teases more Uplift series fiction.

(2021 note: I have only noticed Stenn Sigurdsson appearing in the SFL Archives to post forwarded David Brin messages, which is why I referred to Stenn Sigurdsson as a "friendly David Brin sock puppet account" in my past SFL Archives readthrough posts.)

-Robert Anson Heinlein discussion part 43439: Heinlein's legacy, Heinlein's influence, Heinlein writing his wife Virginia into 95% of his later stories, the differences between the RAH Puppet Masters 1994 movie vs the published book versions, etc. Even the most ardent Heinlein Defense Squad poster vehement about defending Heinlein's writing never brings up I WILL FEAR NO EVIL, and IWFNE never gets mentioned in recommended Heinlein reading lists. 

-White Wolf Publishing now owning the rights to Michael Moorcock omnibus reprints.

-PARIS IN THE TWENTIETH CENTURY, Jules Verne's "lost novel" is finally published. SFLers read it, try to tear apart the predictions Verne made, but mostly wonder if the novel is fake similar to Clifford Irving's fake autobiography of Howard Hughes.

-Sime/Gen callbacks. Interdependency of the two mutated races, the math being way way off if the parastic race doesn't immediately kill off the victim race, etc.

-More David Weber & Honor Harrington series chat. There is a few dedicated SFL Digests exclusively about Honor Harrington near the very end of December 1994.

-More feedback over FALLEN ANGELS, the terrible in every way SF book about how SFF fandom saves the day in a terrible future world where liberals have taken over the world and dumpstered funding of all hard-sciences to instead fight global warming & racism through prayer and telethons. 

-A brief resurgence of Larry Niven KNOWN SPACE chat, mostly focused on the Kzin and the various what-if elements brought up by other authors and Niven's abandoned DOWN IN FLAMES. 

-Discussion of the JURASSIC PARK movie and the various bloopers that made it into the final theatrical cut. Plus SFLers debate which scenes were CGI or physical dinosaur models

-Iain Banks story discussion. Recaps of earlier Banks interviews, heavy discussion of who was who in USE OF WEAPONS, comparisons of Banks non-SF stories, various discussion of Banks Culture stories along with that previously mentioned A FEW NOTES ON THE CULTURE link provided by Ken MacLeod.  

-ROBERT ANSON HEINLEINS THE PUPPET MASTERS comes out and 99.999% of the SFLers who saw it loved it. Only issues they had was that the female lead in it was NOT a Heinlein-ian busty redhead, and that there was not enough nudity in the movie, even though it was a perfect opportunity. Lack of nudity in RAH's PUPPET MASTERS was a subject brought up repeatedly and mentioned more than actual discussion of the movies plot or the twist of exactly when the older scientist character got puppet mastered in the film. 

-The weird background of A.E. Van Vogt including a brief stint of Van Vogt promoting NULL-A, the other-other non-religion religion founded by SFF writers of the 1930s-1950s?

-WITHOUT WARNING, a end-of-the-world tv-movie aired without promotion that invoked WAR OF THE WORLD vibes from people. SFLers tear apart the inaccuracies in it while liking the concept and wishing more types of that series happened.

-THE TOJO VIRUS rivalling Winn Schwartau TERMINAL COMPROMISE in datedness (by 1994 terms) in computer technology, and racism, and Japanophobia. 

(2021 note: Schwartau's TERMINAL COMPROMISE was extremely terrible on all levels. If even 1994 SFLers called it dated and bad, you know THE TOJO VIRUS is something truly terrible.)

-EARTH 2 premieres, and SFL reaction to it is mixed. The plot grabs some, others want hard technical details on everything, others hate/love certain actors, and a few wonder why Steven Spielberg choose Earth 2 versus other more worthy seeming SF tv series.  

-MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS. Why certain characters got recast, why the white ranger appears solo, why the robots do things, how the 3 different Japanese series MMPR pulls from do things better or different.

-RED DWARF actor Craig Charles arrested in the UK. 

-STAR WARS chat returns thanks to George Lucas promoting the Star Wars Episodes 1 through 3 movies he is currently scripting out and doing pre-production work for. BANTHA TRACKS makes it's first reappearance in the SFL Archives since long ago in SFL Archives Vol 01.

-In another callback to SFL Archives Vol 01, Dr. Robert Forward the SF author starts getting discussed. And SFLer's find that their views on Robert Forwards work from way back in 1980 haven't held up, and that Forward is/was laughably terrible at writing people/narratives and only so-so on technology physics/hard science that he's written.

-STAR TREK GENERATIONS comes out and everyone rips it apart. The TOS inclusions seem half-baked, the TNG character work is half-assed and terrible, the plot makes no sense, the Enterprise saucer recovery destroys the no pre-warp contact rule, there should be two or three versions of Picard & Kirk showing up at the finale, and finally the plot makes no sense x30 is the consesus SFL Archives review of GENERATIONS

-SLIDERS the tv-series gets announced and many SFLers wonder if it's based on the similar sounding George RR Martin tv-pilot Portals.

-The SMOFBase Project, a proposed way for SFF fandom to share contact links & convention information via one internet website. The SMOFBase Project is totally not a purity test or way of measuring who has the most SFF fandom contacts. 

(2021 note: Yes, the SMOFBase Project totally sounded like purity test way of measuring who has the most SFF fandom contacts.)

-Winners list for the THE BALROG AWARD gets posted to the SFL Archives.

-Orson Scott Card making a tone-deaf dedication to his grandfather in his Alvin the Maker novel RED PROPHET.

(2021 note: Essentially OSC's great-grandfather illegally colonized the Kainai Nation reservation lands while the Kainai Nation was suffering from a smallpox epidemic that OSC's great-grandfather probably kicked off on them.)  

SFL Archives 1994: Daniel Keys Moran December 10 1994 Status Update

  DANIEL KEYS MORAN

  D.MORAN8@GENIE.GEIS.COM

    ***NEWS RELEASE***

     December 10, 1994

 

1). The new Continuing Time novel is called "Players: The AI War." It's set

    in 2080 and follows Trent the Uncatchable almost exclusively; he's in

    90+% of the novel's scenes. It's nearly completed and will be delivered

    to Bantam shortly.

 

2.  The following novel, according to current plans, will be "Crystal

    Wind." "Crystal Wind" is the novel that was originally called "Players:

    Revolution."

 

    The novel *after* that is the novel I told a bunch of people would be

    following "The Last Dancer." This is "Lord November: The Man-Spacething

    War." LN:TMSW is set in approximately 2680, six hundred years after the

    Trent/Denice stories. It's a very big novel novel, and the first

    Continuing Time novel that's really *set* out in the Continuing Time.

    Its principal characters are Tyrel November, one of Denice

    Castanaveras' descendants, and Bodhisatva, a Pinkerton Agent who also

    happens to be a Trentist, a member of the Exodus Church, aka "The

    Church of His Return."

 

    This novel was 70 or 80% done when Bantam, due to their success with

    "Last Dancer," requested that I do the sequels to TLD next, rather than

    Lord November.  This suited me...

 

3.  In my last news release, about two years ago, I told people that there

    would be two more Trent novels; there won't be. I'm killing him in

    "Players: The AI War," for a lot of good reasons - his death is, well,

    interesting.  Even Trent fans should not be much outraged by it, I

    hope.

 

4.  Bantam has promised to republish "Emerald Eyes" and "The Long Run"

    along with "Players: The AI War." ("The Last Dancer" is still in print,

    and doing quite well.)

 

5.  For a while I was selling copies of "The Long Run" screenplay.  I've

    pretty much ceased doing that; but I am making copies of the screenplay

    available online. Several people have volunteered to handle this; I'll

    let you know what's happening with it as soon as I have more info.

 

6.  Several different groups were negotiating, at one point, with Bantam

    over adaptation rights to "The Long Run." Nothing ever came of any of

    it; people at R. Talsorian Games, for example, told me that Bantam

    never returned their calls, which I find believable.

 

7.  After I turn in "Players: The AI War," I will no longer be under

    contract to Bantam. With my new contract I thoroughly expect to make

    enough money to do this for a living which should speed things up a

    lot.

 

The following are THE TALES OF THE CONTINUING TIME:


                                                  DATE:


 VOLUME ONE: "IN THE BEGINNING..."


 Starcloud...................Previous Cycle of the Wheel

 Spacethings..............................7 Billion B.C.

 The Revolt of the Living...............4.5 Billion B.C.

 The Time Wars..........................3.5 Billion B.C.

 The Continuing Time.........................62,000 B.C.

 "The Last Dancer: The Dancer"...............48,000 B.C.

 The Painsharing of Ifahad....................5,800 B.C.

 The Lord in His Castle..................540 to 589 A.D.

 Remembrance........................................1963

 Driving in the Dark................................1982

 "Emerald Eyes: The Ancestors"......................2030

 The Shepherds......................................2049

 "Emerald Eyes".....................................2062

 Faster than the <Wind>.............................2063

 "The Long Run".............................2069 to 2070

  o  The Last Summer of His Youth

  o  The Long Run

  o  The Wall

 "The Last Dancer:  Spring 2072"....................2072

 "Bordered in Blue".................................2072

  o  Sea Songs

  o  Death Songs

 The Mechanism of Desire............................2074

 "The Last Dancer"..........................2075 to 2076

  o  Summer: 2075

  o  Spring: 2076

  o  The TriCentennial Summer

  o  The Last Dancer

 

 

VOLUME TWO: ON THE ROAD TO REVOLUTION


 "Players: The AI War"............2078 to 2080

  o  Trent the Uncatchable and the Temple of 'toons

  o  The Big Boost

  o  Live Fast and Never Die

  o  The Lay of the Rose

  o  The AI War

 Moving.............................................2082

 "Walk Against the Wind"....................2087 to 2090

 "The Last Detective".......................2090 to 2091

  o  Master of the Fucking Obvious

  o  Deathjokes, Part One

  o  Catch Me If You Can

 "Crystal Wind".............................2090 to 2100

  o  Deserts of Glass

  o  Crystal Wind

 The Voyage of the Dauntless................2100 to 2102

 

VOLUME THREE: THE WAR WITH THE SLEEM


 "A Song as Yet Unsung".....................2111 to 2119

 "A Tale as Yet Untold".....................2121 to 2139

 "Legend"...................................2145 to 2149

 

 

VOLUME FOUR: THE EXODUS FROM EARTH


 The Corridor of Dawn...............................2290

 "The House of November"....................2291 to 2294

  o  Ares

  o  Sondra

  o  Richard: the First Lord of November

  o  Lorn

 The Lords of Shadow................................2309

 The Left Handed Hunter.............................2341

 "Kinderjim on Earth"...............................2347

 "The Serendip, the Starclouds,

        and the Scout".....................2349 to 2361

  o  Discovery

  o  Looking for Home

 "Domain"...................................2382 to 2389

  o  Homecoming Day

  o  The Domain of Kinderjim

  o  Domain

 "The Always Rising of the Night"...........2468 to 2501

     (Being the  true  story  of  Our  Lady  of

     Nightways, Ola  Blue, who  was Lady  Blue,

     who was Leiacan of Eastersea.)

 Honorable Enemies..................................2614

 "Lord November:

        The Man-Spacething War"............2676 to 2682

 The Face of Night..................................2696

 

 

VOLUME FIVE:  CAMBER'S WAY


 "Young Camber".............................3000 to 3018

  o  The Child

  o  The Darkness Has a Name

  o  The Hunted Man

 "The Winding Way Home".....................3022 to 3030

  o  The Song of Camber and S'Reeth

  o  The Song of S'Reeth and the Freebooters

  o  The Old Human Race

  o  Mithian the Mercenary

  o  Homecoming Day 3030

 "Cities in the Darkness"...................3036 to 3038

  o  The Traveler

  o  Cities in the Darkness

  o  The Borderland of Night

 "Camber's Way".....................................3040

 

 

VOLUME SIX:  THE TIME WARS


 "Comes A Man"..............................3106 to 3107

 "In Time of Legend"..........................Irrelevant

 "All of the Things That You Are".............Irrelevant

 "In All of Your Brilliance:

        The Writings of Camber"........3397; Irrelevant

 

 

VOLUME SEVEN:  THE FAILURE OF THE MAP


 "Platformer"...............................2964 to 3031

 Shiva..............................................3042

 Chauki November....................................3392

 "The Golden People"................................3515

 The Return of the Ultimate Webdancer...............4600

 The High Servant...................................7822

 "Anarchist"................................8864 to 8976

  o  The Last Lord of November

  o  The Way the World Ends

  o  Anarchist

 "End of Empire"....................................9082

 "Monument: The Day of Its Release"...............10,400

     (The Last Tale of the Continuing Time:

     In which the Chained One, Creator of the

     Great Wheel of Existence, is released; the

     Starclouds and the Zaradin return; heroes

     who died before die again; and the

     Continuing Time draws to an end.)

 The Cold Time..............................circa 12,000

 

 

Related Works (fictional and otherwise):


 "The Encyclopedia of the Continuing Time" (Non-Fiction)

 "Tales of Old and New Earth"

  o  Other Times and Other Places

  o  Tales of Old and New Earth

 "The Way off the Wheel"

     (In the universal heat death, as the Great

     Wheel of  Existence collapses around them,

     a group of Heroes searches for the Way off

     the Wheel.)

 "The Sheriff of Shokes"

 THE COLLAPSE OF THE LEVELS:

  o  "Poison is the Wind"

  o  "Winter's End"

  o  "Wild"

     (A fantasy  trilogy unlike  <anything> you

     have ever  seen before,  deeper  and  more

     detailed than  "The Lord of The Rings." Of

     course you won't <get> to see it for about

     twenty years;  a trivial enough wait for a

     classic of this magnitude.)

 And, Last But <Certainly> Not Least:

 

          T R I N I T Y:  The Revolt of the Angels

                       Earth Angel

                        Sun Magic

               The Poet of the Apocalypse

 

NOTICE: The preceding is copyright 1994 by Daniel Keys Moran. It may be

 disseminated freely so long as the information contained herein is not

 altered in any way.

 

The author can be reached at D.MORAN8@GENIE.GEIS.COM

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