SFL Archives Vol 12b readthrough update 01

 26% completion, 23 bookmarks

-Tolkienian Lore/LORD OF THE RINGS chat pt 3425: this time it's focused on where Tolkien got the names for the hobbit families? Was it old norse folktales? Was it Wales? Was it from <gasp> American phonebooks? Was it from the sole American friend that made it through World War 1 alive? This version of Tolkienian lore chat is notable for one SFLer disclosing personal information about themselves/family that identity thieves/credit card scammers of any era droll over.

-Sometime in Vol 12b, Evelyn C. Leeper drops the copyright notice from her "reviews" of everything fantasy & science fiction.

-Resurgence of 1967 THE PRISONER tv series chat. Nobody is sure what really happened, or what was "real" in series canon, with a few SFLer's just responding "Information!!" to every THE PRISONER tv-series query.

-1987 SFLer's try to figure out the ending of THE QUIET EARTH movie.

-Animal sentience uplifting in fiction, mostly focusing on Progenitor races intent/goals thanks to David Brin's Uplift universe chat kicking off this discussion thread. H Beam Piper's LITTLE FUZZY stories get mentioned here too, mostly as uplift-impossible? examples.

-SFLer email Signature files containing "cute" and "amusing" topical quotes suddenly become a thing.

-The Americanized version of DYNAMAN does a inverted version of what the Americanized version of the PHOENIX WRIGHT games do.

-STAR TREK chat pt 134658746: SFLer's are confusing by US Navy nomenclature such as rank structure, "the con", "given the con", and "Mister" being used to address both genders in Star Trek movies/episodes.

-A Cthulhu Mythos fan gives their take on how they think the Cthulhu Mythos names are pronounced. (2020 note: Notable mostly for the hard glottal stops/coughs listed, which makes sense given human tongues and human vocal cords aren't meant to be able to pronounce most of the names.) 

-Discussions of what was the earliest Science Fiction written. This being the 1980's the word of editor-hacks like Brian Aldiss and Ben Bova are taken as gospel-guidelines.

1987 technology level: A SFLer humble brags about their Cthulhu Mythos bibliography being stored as LaTeX file.

First mention of Lois McMaster Bujold's VORKOSIGAN SAGA in the SFL Archives.

-SFLer's start guessing what ALIEN 3 will be about. (2020 note: No one, not even the multiple writers of Alien 3 movie scripts expected what the 1992 Alien 3 would turn out to be.)

-SFLer's keep declaring David Eddings BELGARIAD series some of the best fantasy fiction ever written, while the EARTHSEA series gets very mixed reactions (SFLer's either hate it, enjoy it, or have never read it).

-Filksong discussion on many subjects, such as drinking filksongs, regional filksong lyrics causing confusion at SF convention filksong contests, more filksong SF&F fan lyrics get posted, etc.

-A 1987 SF Film quote quiz by Mark Leeper, which was hard in 1987 and  near impossible for anyone in 2020 not googling/internet searching that stuff.) 

-The mathematical poem from Stanislaw Lem's CYBERIAD comes up, with SFLers amazing how well the English translation of it works. (2020 note: Stanislaw Lem wrote exclusively in Polish language.)

-More fantasy and SciFi cover artist discussion. Rowena, Roger Begendorf,  & Darrel Sweet get discussed.

-More CODEX SERAPHIANUS discussion. SFLer's are slowly coming around to the "it's made-up gibberish" vs being some super-enciphered text.

 -AFTER THE ZAP (Michael Armstrong),  the movie ROLLERBALL, Martin Caidin CYBORG series, the STEN CHRONICLES series (Chris Bunch & Allan Cole), TALKING MAN (Terry Bisson), HIGHBROW (Neal Barret Jr), CODE BLUE EMERGENCY (James White), THE SEX MAGICIANS (Sheffield House 1973 porno novel), DOWN TOWN (Viido Polikarpus & Tappan King), ARCHITECT OF SLEEP (Stephen R Boyett), the works of SF author Christopher Anvil, BIMBOS OF THE DEATH SUN (Sharyn McCrumb), THE VELVET MONKEYWRENCH (John Muir), and Joel Rosenberg's fantasy stories.

SFL Archives Vol 12a readthrough update 05

100% completion, 89 bookmarks

-An SFLer attends the Doctor Who USA Tour, and gets info on the upcoming DOCTOR WHO series straight from 7th Doctor Who actor Sylvester McCoy. Trivial details about the 7th Doctor Who costuming and logo/theme songs changes are disclosed.  

-SIGN OF CHAOS, the 3rd new Roger Zelazny AMBER book is due out October 1987, and Zelazny has signed a contract for two more Merlin of Chaos sequels. Announcement for Robert Heinlein's upcoming TO SAIL BEYOND THE SUNSET in July 1987. (2020 note: TO SAIL BEYOND THE SUNSET is a trap book. Do not read this book, Do not read this book.)

-SFLer's relate the first SF stories that they read/the SF&F fiction they grew up reading pt 35: this time it's TOM SWIFT and DOC SAVAGE coming up in SFLer's memories. And now being able to catch the un-named cameo appearances of Tom Swift and Doc Savage that F&SF authors like Zelazny  put in some of their lighter stories of the 1960's-70's.  

-SF&F book cover artists not researching their work/having a clue about the content inside the book complaints. (2020 note: Don't this line of complaint will really take off until 1990-ish when Robert Jordan's first WHEEL OF TIME novel comes out. I still have fond memories of Rand(?) using invisible ski's and ski-poles on one particularly terrible WoT book cover.)

-Reviews of Douglas Adams 1st DIRK GENTLY series book start coming in, and I won't bother recapping them. You will either enjoy the Dirk Gently books or hate them. Reviews/discussion of David Brin's UPLIFT WAR start coming in. Michael Crichton's SPHERE has come out, as well as the very creeepy-in-retrospect REPLAY by Ken Grimwood.

-More DOCTOR WHO series discussion. Incarnations of the TARDIS control room, female Timelords, Companion comparisons, Doctor Who novelizations quality, fan Cosplay efforts at SF conventions often being better than official Doctor Who efforts, etc

-There has been periodic David Eddings and BELGARIAD chat through SFL Vol 12a, along with speculation to the upcoming 5 part sequel to the Belegariad series due out soon-ish. Given David Eddings child-abusing background, I choose to mention him as little as possible.

-Robert Heinlein chat continued: What was THE CAT WHO WALKED THROUGH WALLS main character's race (black/white/mixxed), and the mismatched color leg transplant, and Lazarus Long interactions with TCWWTW main character 

-HP Lovecraft stories and mythos starts getting discussed as June 1987 closes out, with SFler's trying to classify Lovecraft's work: is it fantasy, is it horror, is it cowboy fiction (NO)? What do SFLer's like about the stories, what movie of HP Lovecraft's stories do they recall? 

-LORD OF THE RINGS pt32553a: How racist is the LotR series since the majority of the enemies in it are dark-colored? Chosen roles of LotR via destiny or Gods mandate. Accusations of seeing things via "an American viewpoint"?

-SF&F convention discussion that is Boscone: Should "hucksters aka convention vendors" pay flat fees for access to conventions selling arenas, what membership modes are recommended for vendors, what tax-code stuff should amateur convention managers be looking at if they want to incorporate/go professional, etc.

-Balancing out the fantasy series discussion, Christopher Stasheff's WALOCK OF GRAMARYE series comes up again. Power-creepage on Gwen the wife, vs the new powers constantly being discovered in the children. The King Kobold novel story total-rewrite and how it does/doesn't fit into established Warlock series canon.

-STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION chat starts building up once official casting news has filtered out to the general public. And people have issues with some of the casting choices and worries of how real ST:TNG episodes will sync up to established STAR TREK canon, and more importantly, how will ST:TNG affect fan-canon? Warp Speed changes from ST:TOS, communicators as badges? Un-named Klingon to be part of the crew as per Majel Roddenberry.

A SFLer tours the STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION soundstages, and notes the carpeting/wall design changes from ST:TOS and breaks down the layouts of the bridge sets, engineering, transporter room, and the one generic living quarters set. Physical TNG uniform changes including color coded changes for Engineering & Command Staff, etc.

SFL Archives Vol 11 readthrough update 02

Current status: 15% completion in SFL Archives Vol 11, 48 bookmarks. 

-David Eddings apparently ripping off Lloyd Alexander's PRYDIAN series wholesale gets brought up a multiple times by different SFLers using variants of this quoted post:

"I read -and enjoyed- the Belgariad, but

it was an almost exact copy of another five book series, the Prydain

series by Lloyd Alexander (The Book of Three, The Black Cauldron,

The Castle of Llyr, Taran Wanderer, and The High King), up to and

including stubborn red-haired princess!  If I were Lloyd Alexander,

I would have filed for copyright infringement!"

-Talk of scifi & fantasy stories built around time-travel and astrally projected main characters brings up a weird fantasy-slash SciFi story that turns out to be THE NIGHT LAND by William Hope Hodgson (2020 readers: be prepared for lots of repetition and filler text involving the main character eating and drinking and sleeping and eating and drinking and sleeping and eating and sleeping and drinking).

-A SFL Archives post about asking if voice actors that read the SFL mailing are willing to share their work experiences is notable mainly because the person making the request cross-posted it to net.sf-lovers, net.startrek and net.movies

-Jean M. Auel's corpus of work comes up as does her writing one-handed fixation on writing in caveman harlequin romance plots into them.

-SFLers try decoding the alliterative names used to insert other fantasy genre and scifi genres authors in your lighter stories that was the de rigueur thing to do for a while in the 1970's-80's

-Someone recommends Spider Robinson's NIGHT OF POWER for it's inclusion of and I quote "touches on (and occasionally fondles) prostitution, rape, pubescents, adultery, and (gasp) miscegenation."  (2020 readers: These themes crop up in almost EVERY Spider Robinson story I've come across in my "give Spider Robinson a 2nd chance re-read attempt.) 

-The 1985 Controller of BBC 1 explains why the DOCTOR WHO series briefly went on hiatus for ""(being) too violent, plots had become boring and repetitive" reasons, and threatened total Doctor Who series cancellation if the show ratings did not improve.

-L Ron Hubbard dies at a undisclosed location sometime in early 1986, Zenna Henderson death notice.

-Timothy Zahn's COBRA series comes up and gets very mixed to extremely negative reviews. Wondering how much COBRA series content got recycled into Zahn's much better well known STAR WARS EU stories?  

-1st mention of iconic children's cartoon VOLTRON in the SFL Archives. 

-George RR Martin's HAVILAND TUF short stories gets brought up a few times. They sound interesting but I am not dropping my "NEVER READ GEORGE RR MARTIN STORIES" rule

-A Feb 19th 1986 LA TIMES article mentioned how a bunch of local SF writers got together after the Voyager 2 spaceprobe did a flyby of Uranus and started getting very notMad about a Harpers Magazine article called "THE TEMPLE OF BOREDOM" by Luc Sante.

-Someone tries to revive (and commercialize) the SF-LOVERS t-shirt SFL subscribers used to lowkey identify each other at Fantasy and SciFi conventions...aka the thing Robert Forwards edgelord son designed back in late 1980

-The SPACE MERCHANTS series by Fredrick Pohl & Cyril M. Kornbluth gets brought up by 1986 SFLers as a 1984-the-book warning of how bad things could get in the future (2020 take: they had no idea)

-R. Ramsay takes self-promotion to a new stage in the SFL Archives and self-publishes their "best (SF) short story" to the SFL mailing list. (2020: I powerskimmed it and uh.... 'Sam Spade written by William Gibson' is how I would describe it) 

-Someone scoops the on-site location shooting for STAR TREK 4 regarding DeForrest Kelly at a local 20th century hospital

 -Hank Buurman discloses the survey responses he got for "posting on female sexuality in sf/fantasy" in the SFL mailing list. Hank Buurman did get ot a lot of responses, but the responses Hank Buurman received were thoughtful and full of details. Since no one requested anonymity, Hank Buurman includes the login names/email addresses of the people who responded next to extracts of their posts. Since Hank Buurman didn't feel anonymity was cool for people, I returned the favor in kind.

-Excerpts from the HARPERS MAGAZINE article "THE TEMPLE OF BOREDOM" mentioned earlier get re-posted to the SFL Archives. Without the full essay to read....the excerpts given just ramble from topic to topic <rimshot burn on my SFL Archives readthrough in a nutshell I guess> 

-The benefits of subscribing to Locus Magazine for the low low cost of only $24 per year *in 1986 money valuation* Not sure what has changed regarding the Locus Magazine of the 1980s vs the Locus Magazine of modern times (2020 guess: it went digital and costs more is my uneducated, not looking things up at all guess)  

-A "Secular Humanist Revival" panel hosted by Orson Scott Card at the upcoming INCONJUNCTION 6 in July 1986 gets teased.

-Book publishers always seeming to finally publish all the stories and books of authors they could never manage to do when the author was alive...this time it's Philip K Dick getting the post-mortem career boost.

-SIME/GEN Householding and whatever the hell it is comes up a few times. Channels, Rensimes, Companions, Gens, and Sosectu's are name-dropped. Guessing Sime/Gen is some version of pre-Internet LARPing

-TRAVELLER RPG comes up again, with requests for interstellar merchant fiction. GRRM's Haviland Tuf gets recommended again, and my love of the TRAVELLER RPG makes me break my "NEVER READ GEORGE RR MARTIN STORIES" rule and add the Haviland Tuf stories to my reading list. <damn it>

-James Blish's CITIES IN SPACE series also gets recommended to the TRAVELLER RPG fan, however I have read those Cities in Space stories and they are exactly as hypocritical as everything involving 1980's televangelists & money/adultery.

-HIGHLANDER 1 gets released, it rocks, and Sean Connery hits the "kissing on the lips costs more" uh "non-Scottish accents cost more" phase of his acting career

-The "Why do producers keep remaking successful films every couple of decades?" question comes up, and SFLers start mentioning various 1970's-1980's film remakes.

-A small publishing house based in Willimantic CT that seemingly specialized in doing limited publication small print runs of Gene Wolfe books has come up in the SFL Archives over and over again since 1981/1982. *HINT* Given the printing press technology level back then, suspect that Gene Wolfe mega-fan collectors might be able to score physical offset printing plates of Gene Wolfe's work if they contacted that publisher/the estate of the publisher. *HINT*

-KLAATU BARADA NICOTINE: A SFLer makes the observation of how in THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL 1951 movie, doctors were smoking heavily when discussing that Klaatu the alien ambassador somehow has a longer lifespan than Earth humans. HMMMM.

-One of the ultimate blue-collar Scifi book series comes up again, STAR RIGGERS by John DeChancie. Despite the subject matter <interstellar Big-BIG RIG trucker> and the wish-fullfilment factors in them, the Star Riggers series isn't terrible.

-April Fools jokes, 1986 edition 

-Judy-Lynn del Rey obituary notice. Judy-Lynn del Rey is mostly forgotten by modern SF fans, however Judy-Lynn del Rey is the person most responsible for dragging Science Fiction out of the sub-sub-genre slums and making SF more accessible to readers of all gamuts and backgrounds. RIP Judy-Lynn del Rey.

-EE Smith's in-novel solution to handling a Grand Fleet of a million spaceships: A large display tank and 200 four-armed telephone switch operators.

-Mark Leeper expands on why he thinks the 1975 BBC tv series THE SURVIVORS is one of the best SciFi series out there (2020 note: the 1975 version of THE SURVIVORS predicts a lot of things that went down in real life re: COVID19)     

-A few SFL people want to know WTF(and how playable IRL) the FENCE game in John Brunner's SHOCKWAVE RIDER is. (2020 take: Now I do too, damnit.)

-Someone finds it impossible to find slack time in the LOTR series if actual movies were made of the LOTR books  (2020 take: Peter Jackson laughs and laughs and laughs and laughs as Tidus from Final Fantasy X chimes in)

-SFLers notice a slew of typographical errors in the books that have been coming out lately. DAW usually comes up regarding this subject. (2020 take: Cutting back on copy-editors is usually a sign that book publishers are in trouble. DAW doesn't exist anymore (or does it?). Coincidence?) 

-THIEVES WORLD series comes up again. Essentially a shared universe for fantasy genre writers, with near free reign for the involved authors to f**k with other authors characters/plots. George RR Martin would adopt a similar method for his most-beloved series, the WILD CARDS setting.

-SKYCAM technology gets mentioned for 1st time or so in the SFL Archives. One SFLer thinks the first movie to use SKYCAM technology was the opening scene in HIGHLANDER 1(1986), while another SFLer thinks it was used in All the Right Moves(?)

-Exponential expansion of the ARPANET/other connected pre-Internet networks and how it all relates scarily to Algis Budrys's 1976 story MICHAELMAS.

-Someone reviews Jack Dann's THE MAN WHO MELTED, and comments that the book revolves around every character having severe psychological problems and Scream therapy being (the cause of?/the solution to?) the central mystery of the book. 

-Some deranged person wants links to the 13 episodes of HitchHikers Guide to the Net previously posted to the 1984 SFL Archives, and I hate them for bringing that hell back on me.

-The SFL Archives mailing list moderator-maintainer posts on 11 Apr 86:

Well, here it is almost 10 days after the beginning of April

and guess what?  I am *still* getting messages from people asking

about the new subscription charges announced in the April 1 edition

(Vol 11, #59) of SF-LOVERS.  For those of you who haven't gotten it

by now, that was the April Fool's issue.  I guess the issue was much

more subtle than I thought it was or else people were confused by

the fact that they received the issue after April 1.  Can you say

"slow mailers and lousy hardware"?  I thought so.  It seems we were

off the network for a few days and that delayed transmission of the

digest even though it was prepared far enough in advance.

SFL Archives Vol 10 readthrough update 01

-The Kindle I use to read the SFL Archives decided to suicide itself during yet another blowjob hagiography review of Spider Robinson at the 2% mark in SFL Vol 10, and I didn't blame it.

(sidenote 2020:  In my free time waiting for a replacement Kindle device, gave Spider Robinson's work a re-read after dissing him hard last in my previous SFL Archives read-through posts, because maybe I'd been too harsh towards Spider Robinson previously?)

 -Lots of David Eddings BELEGARIAD discussion, lots of Piers Anthony story discussion, and lots of Spider Robinson story discussion

2020 joke: <Jeopardy buzzer: Alex, what is "Authors whose work aged beyond hyper-badly for $800?" 

Alex Trebek: "CORRECT." >

2020 Joke Explainer: Giving Spider Robinson's work a re-read was a big mistake. Repeated instances of outright sexual assault, jailbait, underaged date rape, non-consentual bdsm, date rape, rape, etc in all of Spider Robinson's short stories & novels.

-Frank Herbert's Dune series continues to be discussed, not so much the DUNE 1984 movie. Much SFL internal amusement comes from reposting an old interview excerpt where Frank Herbert says: "I'm still against the idea of sequels in principle, because it's like watering down your wine all the time until you're left with just water." This is extremely funny given how many Dune sequels/prequels have come out since 1999.

-Piers Anthony had only released 8 XANTH books up to this point in 1985...<shakes head in 2020>...and most of the 1985 SFL readers demand more Piers Anthony stories. More discerning SFL posters noticed that each new Xanth book has upped the perv-factor with female characters in them getting dumber, and younger. 

-someone posts about the 1985 convention BOSKONE 22 being terrible on multiple levels (massively overcharging one-day pass people, overcrowded, terrible panels, worse film schedule, actively hostile venue, etc) with other SFL posters chiming in agreeing. One of the Boskone 22 organizers posts a big-ass "how fucking dare you" crocodile tears effort post that fails to address any of the complaints many SFL people posted about re: Boskone 22.

-Robert Forward's ROCHEWORLD gets held up as a model of good hard science fiction writing, which uh as a first time reader of Rocheworld and it's sequel 2 weeks ago in 2020, I can firmly say; HELL NO. Rocheworld was not good or hard science fiction beyond the light-sail setup.

-book publisher f**kery pt 47: Diane Duane's (who I had never heard of before or totally forgotten about (I really didn't read YA fiction growing up)) book 2 of a existing series comes out, which leads into a digression about book publishers (Dell) cancelling entire print runs, Ballantine Books dying, books being stuff in publishing limbo, Bluejay Press taking up the copyrights, and Bluejay Press as usual utterly f**king up the release dates of books.

-BLUEJAY PRESS is or rather was the anti-matter version of BAEN BOOKS. Bluejay Press  seemed to have good talent scouts and signed lots of amazing in retrospect fantasy & SciFi authors but could never release a book on time, usually missing their own publishing dates by 4 months or more. Meanwhile, Baen Books was the complete opposite in every way.

-pt 57 of me realizing how f**king old/how long certain authors have been around for. Example: George RR Martin & Stephen Donaldson were mentioned as promising up-coming talented authors when the SF-LOVERS mailing list started up in late 1979....this time circa 1984 it's Mary Gentle and Somtow Sucharitkul.

-Theodore Sturgeon death notice (RIP)

-20th century fox (rip, lol disney buyout) tries to get a rocky horror picture show subculture going for it's 1984 movie BUCKAROO BANZAI repeated times in the SFL mailing list.

-1985 marks the first time that April 1st jokes/pranks become the THING to post on April 1st.

-The doxxing of Richard Bachman being Stephen King is completed, and some SFLer's make some extremely notMad posts about it.

-Steven Brust starts posting prolifically in the SFL mailing list about many many things.
Direct quote: "If you really want mainstream quality writing in fantasy, I recommend the Gor books of John Norman." Steven Brust, SFL Archives Volume 10

(sidenote 2020: Have and will continue to re-quote 'Steven Brust recommending GOR' anywhere Steven Brust gets discussed online. The Steven Brust recommending GOR quote also lead to to my working hypothesis of:

If Heinlein inspired a never ending series of libertarian writers, well then John Norman's GOR books inspired and showed that skeevy sex sells in fantasy and scifi. 

originally posted August 11th - August 23th in the SomethingAwful forums Science Fiction Fantasy Megathread 3

SFL Archives Vol 09 readthrough update 01

 SFL Vol 09 started off poorly.

-The first real message of 1984 was about David Eddings latest BELEGARIAD book being delayed. Then Vol 09 Digest 02 started off with Marion Zimmer Bradley recommendations. If only the SFL posters from 1984 knew what is now known about Eddings & MZB. Hoping for minimal MZB & Eddings discussion in the rest of SFL Vol 09, in fact I would gladly read 3 solid months of only filk-song chat and filk-song lyrics posting if MZB & Eddings never came up again in SFL Vol 09. 

V the 1980's tv-series making zero sense on multiple levels caused much SFL discussion

-STAR TREK 3 came out and and also caused much SFL discussion

-Lots and lots of discussion-arguments about "time travel for profit" using banks/investing/trade.

-Someone reposted all the Hitchhikers Guide to the Net parody/homage series and hate filled my soul.

-Marion Zimmer Bradley chat cropped up repeatedly along with filk chat and more "old time religion" filk-song series. Hate continued to rise.

-The SFL archives version of BravestOfTheLamps is Jeff Duntemann on a never ending quest to determine what SFF stories/what SFF authors are of literary merit

-BackStabMod reappeared in the SFL archives as a "normal" poster after less than 2 months of being "off the ARPANET" forever. Still going to call them BackStabMod forever though, just like DolphinF**ker will forever be called DolphinF**ker

-A whole lot of SFLers are doing "my non-online friend says: CONTROVERSIAL TAKE" posting

-Dean Ing gets mentioned for the first time in the SFL archives. Dean Ing was/is a batshit crazy mil-scifi survivalist author obsessed with airplanes, cowboys, technology, the old west, and the sex life of boars.

-Terry Pratchett gets mentioned for the first time in the SFL archives as well, regarding huge scale "built world" story recommendations, which definitely applies to Terry Pratchett's STRATA.

-a Tekumel RPG/Empire of the Petal Throne RPG novel gets pimped/reviewed/counter-reviewed.

-many people ask for Libertarian fiction recommendations, resulting in multiple Libertarian fiction recs, which I won't inflict on this thread other than saying 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999919999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999993999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 of the Libertarian stories mentioned in the replies are exactly as stupid and trite as Shakespearean plays.

-William Gibson's NEUROMANCER came out, and most of the SFL likes it. Personal opinion: Worse thing in Neuromancer is the character archetypes, which Gibson will reuse and reuse until you are sick of them.

-Scifi magazine/book cover-art chat devolves-evolves into Queen the Band discussion/Day the Earth Stood Still/cover artist chat, which purged about 80% of the hatred in my soul from the earlier mentioned MZB chat & filk-song lyric posts.

-Lauren Weinstein takes some lithium/finally calms the fuck down about WARGAMES 1983 enough to promise IMDB style episode summaries of the Outer Limits tv-show

originally posted August 1st - August 8th in the SomethingAwful forums Science Fiction Fantasy Megathread 3